Ron Paul on Iran False Flag

ebacon · #1 10-08-2012, 10:30 AM

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2012/...re-for-ce.html

Boreas · #2 10-08-2012, 11:16 AM

This really isn't about Ron Paul. Instead it's about Patrick Clawson, Director of Research at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. WINEP is an offshoot of AIPAC so their militant pro-Israel "bona fides" are pretty solid.

Clawson recently uttered this beauty. (Sorry for the syntax. WINEP needs new writers.)

In September 2012, Clawson at a Washington Institute for Near East Policy policy forum luncheon, on the matter of building coordination between the U.S. and Israel on preventing Iran from achieving a nuclear weapon, when talking about what he called,"the traditional way of going to war", used the example of catastrophic events similar to those like the attack on Pearl Harbor, the sinking of the Lusitania, the Gulf of Tonkin, the explosion of the USS Maine, the attack on Fort Sumter, as initiators of wars, followed by the suggestion that if war with Iran is necessary, provoking a war with Iran might be best for the U.S. government's interests, whether by the U.S. itself through covert operations against the Iranians which could escalate, as he mentioned "we(U.S. government) could get nastier at that" when talking about covert operations, or provoked by someone else.

Shades of PNAC and their "catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbor."

John

ebacon · #3 10-08-2012, 11:19 AM

Ike sure saw it coming.

icenine · #4 10-08-2012, 05:32 PM

Actually the Obama Administrations use of the multi-lateral sanctions are really hurting Iran...much more than anything Bush II ever did. We do not need Chickenhawk Romney starting another war in the Middle East.

ebacon · #5 10-08-2012, 06:19 PM

That dude in the WINEP video sure is brazen.

"We are in the game of using covert means against the Iranians. We could get nastier at that."

I might be OK with that if by being nastier he means he is willing to blow himself up in the purported name of Allah. But blowing up US soldiers to feed his ego? That's real chickenhawk shit there.

ebacon · #6 10-08-2012, 06:39 PM

Here is the August 17 explosion that the speaker mentioned. First I have heard of it.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...saboteurs.html

bobabode · #7 10-08-2012, 07:54 PM

Fine old tradition going back to - ummm, Sun Tzu.

Iran has a shitload of silkworms and exocets pointed across the strait of Hormuz. I wouldn't be surprised if a pro shah group commandeers and fires one or a dozen at a US or allied frigate and blow it out of the water. I think that the USNavy is aware of it, I just hope no captain follows an order to be sacrificial bait for the hawks both here and in Israel. If Israel is so badassed, how come they haven't taken out that mountain in Iran and started a war already? Probably because Hillary has informed them that it would be a bitter poison pill?

Who knows, I'm just high school dropout w/ a GED but ....

mpholland · #8 10-08-2012, 08:13 PM

Maybe if we had just turned Iran into a sheet of glass during the Reagan era we would have been forgiven by now from the rest of the world.

Boreas · #9 10-08-2012, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mpholland

Maybe if we had just turned Iran into a sheet of glass during the Reagan era we would have been forgiven by now from the rest of the world.

Turning any nation and its people into "a sheet of glass" for any reason is unforgivable. Even seriously suggesting it takes some effort to forgive. It requires, among other things, a recognition that the speaker is operating out of feelings of impotence and fear.

John

bobabode · #10 10-08-2012, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mpholland

Maybe if we had just turned Iran into a sheet of glass during the Reagan era we would have been forgiven by now from the rest of the world.

Yeh, I used to think that about southern Afghanistan right after 9/11 but then I grew up. Whomever thinks nuking some country is an option needs to have their head examined.