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Old 09-06-2012, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by whell View Post
Your logic is a bit tortured here IMHO.
You're entitled to your opinion, humble as it is.

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To suggest that the Declaration is not a founding document when it is treated as such by both historians and our own government is curious on your part. In "the strictest sense", it is a product of the Continental Congress, a governmental body and forerunner of our current ferderal government. It's as much a part of the history of this country as the Magna Charta is to England.
I don't dispute that the Declaration of Independence is a seminal document in American history but, though I recognize my view is not the accepted one, I believe that the Declaration is a predecessor to our founding documents. The Continental Congress was a revolutionary council. It wasn't a national government. Our national government was established after the Revolution was over and won.

As for the Magna Carta, that differs significantly from the Declaration of Independence because it was a document executed by King John to stave off the dissolution of the Monarchy, not an act of rebellion against the Crown. One document preserved the integrity of a nation and the other rent it asunder.

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The reference to the President was to the office, not the person, since the treaty did not reference the President by name.
That's pretty weak, Whell. Those words are a direct reference to the person, not the country. Period.

As I said before, Whell, The Treaty with Tunis was an ancillary document to the Treaty of Tripoli. The language was highly personalized. It was pretty much a treaty of personal friendship between the "magnificent Prince Hamuda Pasha, Bey of Tunis" and the President of the United States, personal but formal.

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