Bankers threaten to resign. - Page 6

merrylander · #51 12-05-2009, 08:25 AM

As I have posted here before it was the Conservative Party that introduced the Single Payer system in Canada, hardly socialists, in fact toe New Democratic party is the socialist party there and they only ever rose to power once in one of the provinces and then fizzled out.

All this rugged individualism is a fairy tale y'all cling to but it is still just a fairy tale. Be a rugged individualist, just stay the hell off our roads and our bridges. Provide your own electricity, and grow your own food. We can live as a society and respect the social contract that implies or we can become a nation of outlaw gunslingers.

Charles · #52 12-05-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by merrylander

As I have posted here before it was the Conservative Party that introduced the Single Payer system in Canada, hardly socialists, in fact toe New Democratic party is the socialist party there and they only ever rose to power once in one of the provinces and then fizzled out.

All this rugged individualism is a fairy tale y'all cling to but it is still just a fairy tale. Be a rugged individualist, just stay the hell off our roads and our bridges. Provide your own electricity, and grow your own food. We can live as a society and respect the social contract that implies or we can become a nation of outlaw gunslingers.

Society won't allow for a rugged individualist. No matter where you park your ass you're going to be taxed on it. Everything you buy or sell will be taxed.

And they're fixin' to tax the air that we breathe.

Now I don't have a problem with anyone who wants to be as self sufficient as they can. And if you pay taxes, your opinion is as valuable as anyone else.

No doubt we do have a social contract, but what form it takes is a topic for discussion. I can think of no surer way to become a nation of outlaw gunslingers that to continue to force people to pay for a vision of how things should be when they disagree.

But this happens every so often, so why should things change now?

Chas

HatchetJack · #53 12-06-2009, 05:59 PM

Just for the record, I never said anything about the bailout. I hope it works
and it had to be done, otherwise we could not even swiped for gas at the
pumps ect...
The liberals pressured the government into strong arming the banks to loan
money to poor people with lousy or no credit and created an artificial market
for new homes. They built too many homes, too many people defaulted and
now the banks own homes that are in terrible shape and not sellable. And
now our homes are devalued because of it and the banks are broke.
I am totally against everyone having the same things and the poor living
like the rich because that takes out their incentive for working harder.
Call it socialism or communism or what have you but its not going to work
in this country. Not now, not here, not anywhere, not ever. It always fails.

noonereal · #54 12-06-2009, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HatchetJack

Just for the record, I never said anything about the bailout. I hope it works
and it had to be done, otherwise we could not even swiped for gas at the
pumps ect...
The liberals pressured the government into strong arming the banks to loan
money to poor people with lousy or no credit and created an artificial market
for new homes. They built too many homes, too many people defaulted and
now the banks own homes that are in terrible shape and not sellable. And
now our homes are devalued because of it and the banks are broke.
I am totally against everyone having the same things and the poor living
like the rich because that takes out their incentive for working harder.
Call it socialism or communism or what have you but its not going to work
in this country. Not now, not here, not anywhere, not ever. It always fails.

So that's how you got it figured.

merrylander · #55 12-07-2009, 07:05 AM

Repulican bull crap, Jack, and you know it. Long before the housing bubble we still had this crazy mortgage system, the only thing the liberals may have done was to try and stop red lining. The mortgage system provides for greed, hell it even encourages greed, and those noble bankers you refer to were the greediest of the bunch, Wells Fargo, B of A, Citi, CountryWide, etc.

Oh and your poor devalued house - take a good look, ours is worth three times what it cost us - if that is devaluation I wish that had happened to my 401k. Thanks to Phil Gramm it is in the toilet.

d-ray657 · #56 12-07-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HatchetJack

Just for the record, I never said anything about the bailout. I hope it works
and it had to be done, otherwise we could not even swiped for gas at the
pumps ect...
The liberals pressured the government into strong arming the banks to loan
money to poor people with lousy or no credit and created an artificial market
for new homes. They built too many homes, too many people defaulted and
now the banks own homes that are in terrible shape and not sellable. And
now our homes are devalued because of it and the banks are broke.
I am totally against everyone having the same things and the poor living
like the rich because that takes out their incentive for working harder.
Call it socialism or communism or what have you but its not going to work
in this country. Not now, not here, not anywhere, not ever. It always fails.

So you have no problem with government spending that benefits corporate America. It would be interesting to see what you define as "rich," because the only people who have been benefitting from government policy in recent years were already there. We have been living under a system in which the rich manipulate the system to their own advantage - using the givernment to insure that the rich get richer while the working class remains on its own. The working class can't afford the lobbyists that, for example, make sure that health care reform dollars end up in the pockets of the insurance industry.

Regards,

D-Ray