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merrylander · #**121** 08-07-2012, 12:32 PM

Here follow this;

http://www.germanculture.com.ua/libr...r_republic.htm

merrylander · #**122** 08-07-2012, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by JJIII

I was thinking more along the lines of 50 sovereign states, all members of the U.S. of A. As described in the Constitution.

That sounds like the Conferacy and that was why they wrote the Constitution.

As to sovereign strikes me that they still are but would prefer anarchy.

Boreas · #**123** 08-07-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete

John "B" (lots of Johns) I am absolutely correct

You're going to need to prove that.

Marshal Petain, a hero of the First War and hardly a "Leftist", was the leader of the Vichy government. The Vichy routinely rounded up Jews, Communists, Soshulists and other "undesirables" and turned them over to the Nazis.

French Communists, benefiting from the experience many had in the Spanish civil War, were a huge and important part of the "Maquis" (French Resistance). They captured and shot any Vichy official they could lay their hands on.

Before the war the French Communist Party became a signatory to the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact between the Soviets and the Nazis. This occurred in 1939, before even a shot was fired between France and Germany so it was irrelevant to the formation of the Vichy government. Also, it was a show of solidarity with the Russian Communist Party, not a capitulation to the Nazis (but I suspect that this is what you're going for, Pete).

Try again, Pete.

John

piece-itpete · #**124** 08-07-2012, 01:07 PM

So you don't know about the left tricking the right to leave the country? Anyone else know what I'm talking about?

If not you will have to either believe what you will or perhaps try Shirers' Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (there's better, but not as all encompassing).

Pete

Boreas · #**125** 08-07-2012, 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete

.... you will have to either believe what you will or perhaps try Shirers' Rise and Fall of the Third Reich....

Pete

So, you can't back it up?

John

merrylander · #**126** 08-07-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete

So you don't know about the left tricking the right to leave the country? Anyone else know what I'm talking about?

If not you will have to either believe what you will or perhaps try Shirers' Rise and Fall of the Third Reich (there's better, but not as all encompassing).

Pete

No, do you?

piece-itpete · #**127** 08-07-2012, 01:16 PM

I hope I don't resemble a resource library too much.

Perhaps one of our fellow history buffs can back me up. It's not like it's some unknown secret....

If not, Amazon is an amazing resource.

Pete

merrylander · #**128** 08-07-2012, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I hope I don't resemble a resource library too much.

Perhaps one of our fellow history buffs can back me up. It's not like it's some unknown secret....

If not, Amazon is an amazing resource.

Pete

Shrirer's book was praised by many journalist and roundly critcised by most of academia.

piece-itpete · #**129** 08-07-2012, 01:22 PM

Yeah I'm not certain I completely agree that Nazism was kinda integral to German character.

However his facts were certainly not roundly disputed.

Pete

Boreas · #**130** 08-07-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I hope I don't resemble a resource library too much.

Perhaps one of our fellow history buffs can back me up. It's not like it's some unknown secret....

If not, Amazon is an amazing resource.

Pete

Pete, if you're going to toss stuff like that into the conversation you really should be in a position to back it up.

John