Romney tax returns are the same as Fast/Furious docs?

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I think (hope) this may have to do with Romney's tax proposals and not his personal
taxes. I do NOT want to see the Democrats start using these disgusting Republican tactics.

John

The Democrats need to realize they are in a gun fight and get armed!

Disgusting as they are dirt and character assassination work in elections. The truth seems to get lost by all of the distracting or redirection of issues.




Barney

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Oerets

The Democrats need to realize they are in a gun fight and get armed!

Disgusting as they are dirt and character assassination work in elections. The truth seems to get lost by all of the distracting or redirection of issues.




Barney

Surely you don't think that the ends justifies the means. I would rather see us lose the election than take the low road that the Repubs are so proud of.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I see that tax measures before the Senate are also the same as Romneys' taxes, Reid on blocking the vote on tax cuts/extentions:

"We'll get to the tax issues," Reid said. "That way we'll be able to talk in more detail about Gov. Romney's taxes," a reference to Democratic demands that wealthy GOP presidential challenger Mitt Romney release more of his income tax returns." - Reid

http://news.yahoo.com/democrats-bloc...141823432.html

Mittys taxes should are flexible

Pete

"The White House voiced support for Reid's blocking action. Presidential spokesman Jay Carney called the GOP move "a gimmick."

The proposal floated by Republicans "was not the president's proposal, did not include the other middle-class tax cuts that were part of the president's proposal," Carney said. Carney said that Reid promised the Senate would have a chance to vote on Obama's most recent proposal and he would take him at his word."

From the same article- the gimmick must've slid under your radar Pete

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by bobabode

"The White House voiced support for Reid's blocking action. Presidential spokesman Jay Carney called the GOP move "a gimmick."

The proposal floated by Republicans "was not the president's proposal, did not include the other middle-class tax cuts that were part of the president's proposal," Carney said. Carney said that Reid promised the Senate would have a chance to vote on Obama's most recent proposal and he would take him at his word."

From the same article- the gimmick must've slid under your radar Pete

Right now, absolutely everything on both sides could be characterized as "a gimmick."

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Right now, absolutely everything on both sides could be characterized as "a gimmick."

No one is claiming here that one party is pure as the driven snow Pat. My purpose in quoting the more pertinent, in my estimation, part of that article was to point up the picking and choosing of quotes Pete was using to bolster his claim. False equivalence is dirty pool foisted by the media and more in use by the Repubs from where I sit. YMMV.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by bobabode

No one is claiming here that one party is pure as the driven snow Pat. My purpose in quoting the more pertinent, in my estimation, part of that article was to point up the picking and choosing of quotes Pete was using to bolster his claim. False equivalence is dirty pool foisted by the media and more in use by the Repubs from where I sit. YMMV.

Mostly agree. However, I'm speaking about everything that happens in Congress and the White House between now and the election. We're formally in the silly season.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Mostly agree. However, I'm speaking about everything that happens in Congress and the White House between now and the election. We're formally in the silly season.

Deafinitely agree.

The past three years has seen a perversion of the filibuster by the GOP. Sadly, the dems'll pull it out as a matter of tit for tat and that'll be the end of democracy until the rules get changed. There's little honor amongst politicians but abusing procedural rules to block any and almost every piece of business before them has created a stumbling block of huge proportions. The solution?
Hell if I know? The blame rests squarely with the GOP in this case.

What Reid did was in response to McConnell's bill killing amendment in this case was my point which Pete left out of his characterization that the Dems do it too.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Surely you don't think that the ends justifies the means. I would rather see us lose the election than take the low road that the Repubs are so proud of.

That is what they are counting on, us playing by the old set of rules based on far play. Now it seems that no amount of the truth matters any more, it is more the latest's soundbite or sensational headline. That vast majority of the electorate seems to have a very short attention span. Will only remember the simple and short ideas used in 30 second attack ads.

Or they out and out just don't care! Complex ideas bore them or give headaches. Add to once they start to think they are powerless give up and become a drone.

The Dems need to message using the truth but used in the new over the top in your face productions. They need to peek the interests of easily distracted voter. Get people like video game designers to come up cartoon characters.


Barney

[bobabode]

Cenc Uygar has been doing exactly that. Give it a watch Barney. I do expect Current to be dropped from Time Warner tho.

[Oerets]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Cenc Uygar has been doing exactly that. Give it a watch Barney. I do expect Current to be dropped from Time Warner tho.

It comes on during the News Hour on PBS here. But I'm not the one who needs to see it BTW. On a side note my Direct TV took John Stewart off last night because of a contract dispute with Comedy Central.



Barney