Speaker wants to rip PPACA out by the roots

[icenine]

Originally Posted by beej

I do disclose in my signature line that I am moderate to the extreme, sir.

Finnbow will love you

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Anyway, this is not the time for fiscal restraint.

If the government budget piling up red ink by the bus load, and increasing its rate of expansion, is not the time to introduce fiscal restraint, then precisely when IS the time to introduce it?

[whell]

Originally Posted by icenine

Has the thought ever occurred to you that the Supreme Court's decision last week might have been the end of the Tea Party?

Nope. Quite the opposite, really. Frankly, I think there exists the possibility that the decision could energize both liberal and conservative bases. That's a good thing, don't you think?

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

If the government budget piling up red ink by the bus load, and increasing its rate of expansion, is not the time to introduce fiscal restraint, then precisely when IS the time to introduce it?

As per usual, you need to drastically revise the premise for your question.

The government has drastically reduced its rate of expansion since Bush's DHS orgy. Right now our deficit is a smaller percentage of GDP than it was during the Eisenhower administration.

And we all know how bad things were then.

John

[beej]

Originally Posted by whell

If the government budget piling up red ink by the bus load, and increasing its rate of expansion, is not the time to introduce fiscal restraint, then precisely when IS the time to introduce it?

I guess it all depends on how one defines fiscal restraint. If one defines it as being fiscally responsible then I have absolutely no problem with reining in government spending so long as it is accompanied by reasoned and well thought out revenue enhancement through tax increases. To suggest that the national debt can be addressed by budget cutting alone is akin to trying to pay off your credit card by simply stopping charging anything more to it.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by whell

Nope. Quite the opposite, really. Frankly, I think there exists the possibility that the decision could energize both liberal and conservative bases. That's a good thing, don't you think?

Surprisingly, given the source, I agree.

John

[icenine]

Good if your base is not shrinking Whelly....think about it. Obama has women, labor,minorities and now those who favor the health care law on his side. Geographically he has a big chunk of the old East Coast, will probably win a few rust belt states, and most importantly, he may be building a Democratic stronghold here in the Southwest...California, New Mexico, and Nevada are within is grasp because of his good standing with Latinos. And he is not so far behind in Arizona either.
Romey may win Florida and Texas....and some of the smaller Western states (population wise) and the South. But I just do not get that expansion feeling from him...do you?
Now if I am wrong you can repost this in Nov

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by icenine

Good if your base is not shrinking Whelly....think about it. Obama has women, labor,minorities and now those who favor the health care law on his side. Geographically he has a big chunk of the old East Coast, will probably win a few rust belt states, and most importantly, he may be building a Democratic stronghold here in the Southwest...California, New Mexico, and Nevada are within is grasp because of his good standing with Latinos. And he is not so far behind in Arizona either.
Romey may win Florida and Texas....and some of the smaller Western states (population wise) and the South. But I just do not get that expansion feeling from him...do you?
Now if I am wrong you can repost this in Nov

I don't see President Obama carrying Ohio. I do think he'll win in Michigan and I want to see Whell's face when that happens.

John

[icenine]

Originally Posted by Boreas

I don't see President Obama carrying Ohio. I do think he'll win in Michigan and I want to see Whell's face when that happens.

John

I have faith in my old home state John...it will be close. I do not think the outsourcer issue that Romney is getting targeted with will go down well there...he is going to be painted as another Carly Fiorina. But...you never know about Ohio.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by icenine

I have faith in my old home state John...it will be close. I do not think the outsourcer issue that Romney is getting targeted with will go down well there...he is going to be painted as another Carly Fiorina. But...you never know about Ohio.

Yes, there's the outsourcing issue and also the "Let Detroit die" business. I don't know but I'd bet there are more auto workers in Ohio now than there are in Michigan.

But then there are the machines, with regard to both their distribution and hackability. We've seen it before. No reason not to expect to see it again.

John