Stolen Valor Act Decision

[bobabode]

Draft Alvarez and drop him from a C130 into the Helmand Province and let him prove it.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Rex E.

The court made the correct ruling. I can claim all day long I'm a decorated war hero. Only when I start receiving monies, good or services for such claim, should I be prosecuted.

Precisely.

[Big_Bill]

As I and any serviceman appreciated the Stolen Valor Act, the Supremes had no choice but to find it unconstitutional.

The next step would be for Truth in Political Speeches and Advertising Act, and it would be enforceable against the lier's in politics.

They need to have the Freedom of Speech to become elected with their lies.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

As I and any serviceman appreciated the Stolen Valor Act, the Supremes had no choice but to find it unconstitutional.

The next step would be for Truth in Political Speeches and Advertising Act, and it would be enforceable against the lier's in politics.

They need to have the Freedom of Speech to become elected with their lies.

But Bill, there wouldn't be five repubs left in office. Boneyard and Issa would be the first to go. Would your idea be applicable to the Supremes? It sure sounds like the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States is worthless in your mind. Maybe you view it as just something people hide behind?
By the way I believe it was a narrow decision in regards to Alvarez and did not strike the law down. I could be wrong, though. Scratch my last statement. The law bit the dust.

[Big_Bill]

Originally Posted by bobabode

But Bill, there wouldn't be five repubs left in office. Boneyard and Issa would be the first to go. Would your idea be applicable to the Supremes? It sure sounds like the First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States is worthless in your mind. Maybe you view it as just something people hide behind?
By the way I believe it was a narrow decision in regards to Alvarez and did not strike the law down. I could be wrong, though. Scratch my last statement. The law bit the dust.

That is why no one bothers to post here Bobby,

There are many things that you cannot say under the freedom of Speech, First Amendment. So how have you come to the conclusion that it is "Worthless in my mind" ? Quite a stretch, even for you ? Or have you been in my mind lately ? If so, please return it, as I am posting here again and surely must have misplaced it ?

It offers everyone the opportunity to speak their mind, not freely lie about everything or everyone.

[bobabode]

If English isn't your mothertongue Bill I might be persuaded to cut you some slack but....

"The next step would be for Truth in Political Speeches and Advertising Act, and it would be enforceable against the lier's in politics."

... maybe you just forgot the smiley to denote that you were joking but some how I doubt that you were. If you are entertaining the idea of playing the wounded little bird for some reason I would ask you to please go back and read your own posts for a while. Maybe then you will gain some understanding of why you are not getting any traction in this latest endeavor of claiming to be ganged up on and being misquoted at every turn. Please try to understand that your extremely abrasive and derisive comments in the past are all I have to go by in trying to get inside your mind Billy. So far it's not been a very nice place to visit.
I don't believe that even five percent of your usually chest pounding diatribes could be construed as even vaguely any exchange of ideas. The America love it or leave it comments were the usual fare, why don't you start there to see why I find your worldview distasteful. Being a Big Balls ex Marine with a chip on your shoulder does you no good in discussing politics or any other subject in my view. You'll think I'm being disrespectful of your service but that's your perogative. Actually in my opinion you are the one being disrespectful of the Service. Whichever branch you served in I can guarantee you you weren't taught as an officer candidate to act as you do here on this forum.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

...have you been in my mind lately? If so, please return it, as I am posting here again and surely must have misplaced it?

I'd check your posterior.

[d-ray657]

If I may, it appeared to me that Bill acknowledged the validity of the Court's decision overturning the Stolen Valor Act. He was pointing out that, had it not been overturned, a logical next step for legislation would the the Truth in Political Speeches and Advertising Act, which - following the court's reasoning - would also be overturned.

The protection of political speech is one of the core purposes of the First Amendment. If the people in power were have the ability to define truth and enforce it through criminal sanction, democracy would quickly die. Rather than criminal sanction, the proper response to false speech is more effective speech. As the court pointed out, his lies resulted in some very effective counter-speech. He was called out, humiliated, ridiculed and politically ruined.

Regards,

D-Ray

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Big_Bill

That is why no one bothers to post here Bobby,

There are many things that you cannot say under the freedom of Speech, First Amendment. So how have you come to the conclusion that it is "Worthless in my mind" ? Quite a stretch, even for you ? Or have you been in my mind lately ? If so, please return it, as I am posting here again and surely must have misplaced it ?

It offers everyone the opportunity to speak their mind, not freely lie about everything or everyone.

I would need a delousing sheep dip if I had been in your mind, oh great and Billious one. Thanks for the chuckles tho...

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

If I may, it appeared to me that Bill acknowledged the validity of the Court's decision overturning the Stolen Valor Act. He was pointing out that, had it not been overturned, a logical next step for legislation would the the Truth in Political Speeches and Advertising Act, which - following the court's reasoning - would also be overturned.

The protection of political speech is one of the core purposes of the First Amendment. If the people in power were have the ability to define truth and enforce it through criminal sanction, democracy would quickly die. Rather than criminal sanction, the proper response to false speech is more effective speech. As the court pointed out, his lies resulted in some very effective counter-speech. He was called out, humiliated, ridiculed and politically ruined.

Regards,

D-Ray

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