Speaker wants to rip PPACA out by the roots

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Oerets

What they will do is change the wording somewhat to give more to the Healthcare industry and leave the rest alone. Then call the rest of the bill theirs too!



Barney

You betcha my friend. Boneyard would just reverse the percentages of how much the titans of medicine have to spend and call it their own.

Can I get a rowsing chorus of GUILLOTINE?? (85 % on administration and 15% on healthcare expenditures)

[CarlV]

Yes, I watched it this morning as I almost always do. Same old pack of lies and spin from the great tanned one.

Carl

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by CarlV

Yes, I watched it this morning as I almost always do. Same old pack of lies and spin from the great tanned one.

Carl

I like to think of him as Agent Orange.

John

[icenine]

That is why it is important we re-elect Obama. If Romney gets elected there will be no budget reconciliation and those looming cuts in both defense and social programs will send this country into a double dip like in England....and if they destroy the health care bill on top of that it will be worse.
And if they do not destroy it they want to de-fund it so no one can use it....which is just as bad. America will have a health care program in name only.
The great tanned one looked a bit defensive and sort of whistling pass the graveyard, however. I think he knows that Obama is coalition building, and if they do lose this election it may harbor bad things for the future of the party. The Republicans are not going to win on just an anti-health care agenda. The only people really upset are the base of the GOP and the Koch type millionaires. It is going to take much more than winning the disaffected Southern white vote next fall and guess what Romney does not play well there.
To be honest I think the more they talk about destroying Obama care the more they are shooting themselves in the foot. I mean I go out everyday and I just do not run into people complaining about Obama care....is it just my sheltered existence here in California?

[beej]

For me the classic of the morning was Mitch McConnell's solution to the pre-existing condition issue after repeal and replace: leave it to the states and have the federal government encourage them to address it. That'll work.

[merrylander]

On the Jon Stewart show he showed Romney promising to keep everything in PPACA except the mandatory buy in. Typical repub, promise the moon but not how to pay for it.

There is some promise, a young repub has told super grover to piss off and has come up with a 20/20 plan. Revenues to be 20% of GDP and expenditures reduce to 20% of GDP. More or less the Bowles/Simpson plan the repubs all voted against.

[beej]

Originally Posted by merrylander

On the Jon Stewart show he showed Romney promising to keep everything in PPACA except the mandatory buy in. Typical repub, promise the moon but not how to pay for it.

There is some promise, a young repub has told super grover to piss off and has come up with a 20/20 plan. Revenues to be 20% of GDP and expenditures reduce to 20% of GDP. More or less the Bowles/Simpson plan the repubs all voted against.

Read a piece on this guy (believe he's Scott Rigell, R-VA). Was impressed with his approach to this. Hardly an idealogue. Strikes me as practical.

[whell]

Originally Posted by icenine

That is why it is important we re-elect Obama. If Romney gets elected there will be no budget reconciliation and those looming cuts in both defense and social programs will send this country into a double dip like in England....and if they destroy the health care bill on top of that it will be worse.
And if they do not destroy it they want to de-fund it so no one can use it....which is just as bad. America will have a health care program in name only.
The great tanned one looked a bit defensive and sort of whistling pass the graveyard, however. I think he knows that Obama is coalition building, and if they do lose this election it may harbor bad things for the future of the party. The Republicans are not going to win on just an anti-health care agenda. The only people really upset are the base of the GOP and the Koch type millionaires. It is going to take much more than winning the disaffected Southern white vote next fall and guess what Romney does not play well there.
To be honest I think the more they talk about destroying Obama care the more they are shooting themselves in the foot. I mean I go out everyday and I just do not run into people complaining about Obama care....is it just my sheltered existence here in California?

So the budget reconciliation process will only happen if Obama is re-elected, eh? You may not have noticed, but both parties are already playing election year politics with the budget. Also, to what specifics can you direct me to demonstrate that the Obama has a track record on reducing the size of government or reducing the budget deficit?

[whell]

Originally Posted by bobabode

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics...,5248183.story

What a crazy copperhead sumbitch! Face the Nation today Boneyard says the Neocon teabagging caucus needs to rip the Healthcare Act out by the roots and start all over piece by piece. I wonder what these idjits would call their version?

It needs to happen, and the sooner the better.

[beej]

Interesting that a recent Washington Post poll indicates that most Republicans agree with various provisions of the PPACA until the word 'Obama' is injected into the poll questions then they're opposed. Not entirely sure I understand why that is.