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06-29-2012, 07:49 AM
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I always thought 'reform' meant LESS regulation, paperwork, etc.
So the hospitals won't be able to pass uninsured costs on to us? Has Congress managed to get a free lunch after all?
Love the furious backing away from the term 'Obamacare'. Blood in the water?
Pete
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06-29-2012, 07:52 AM
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06-29-2012, 08:09 AM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
I always thought 'reform' meant LESS regulation, paperwork, etc.
So the hospitals won't be able to pass uninsured costs on to us? Has Congress managed to get a free lunch after all?
Love the furious backing away from the term 'Obamacare'. Blood in the water?
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Pete I have never before in my life filled out so damn many forms as I have to fill out here whenever I even get near a medical facility. Somewhere here a forest has died just because I tore the meniscus in my left knee. In Canada there are no forms.
It was you goopers who called it that, to me it is the PPACA.
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06-29-2012, 08:14 AM
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'Somewhere a forest...' LMAO! It's insane.
I thought Obama has called it Obamacare himself?
Pete
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06-29-2012, 08:33 AM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
I always thought 'reform' meant LESS regulation, paperwork, etc.
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That's because you're a Republican. You guys always think less regulation is better than more... period. I guess that means that, if less is better, none is best, right?
John
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06-29-2012, 08:51 AM
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How many bills did you get last time you went to the doctors?
The byzantine existing regulations on the health care system are good, so more are better? I suspect nobody knows what's really going on at any given time. A recent article in the Plain Dealer said something like 200 people have a hand in our medical bills already. It's a good thing?
With serious reform the thing the government is trying to do gets streamlined, more efficient, less costly for everyone including the government. My dad worked for govenment, he said they would occasionally scrap an entire department just to get rid of the head of it.
Just think how many years earlier government employees could retire if it was reformed
Pete
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06-29-2012, 09:03 AM
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With serious reform the thing the government is trying to do gets streamlined, more efficient, less costly for everyone including the government.
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Even at the cost of the goals the program was created to serve.
John
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06-29-2012, 09:10 AM
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I always thought 'reform' meant LESS regulation, paperwork, etc.Pete
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No Pete reform in general means an improvement of something that is either negative or not working correctly, as in the concept of Reform School, where you take juvenile delinquents and supposedly make them into better citizens i.e. left leaning over-educated government employee so************************ts who post in threads like this.
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06-29-2012, 09:14 AM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
How many bills did you get last time you went to the doctors?
The byzantine existing regulations on the health care system are good, so more are better? I suspect nobody knows what's really going on at any given time. A recent article in the Plain Dealer said something like 200 people have a hand in our medical bills already. It's a good thing?
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It kinda makes you wonder why the GOP is so hellbent on defending the status quo. My bet is that all the companies employing the paper-pushers and profiting from the current system are greasing the palms of their compliant GOP enablers.
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06-29-2012, 09:40 AM
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How many bills did you get last time you went to the doctors?
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Unless you're using Medicare, Medicaid, Tricare or the VA, all that paperwork is generated by the doctor/hospital and the insurance company. Most of the hospital's paperwork is for the insurance company. Then there's all the paperwork that comes later while the insurance company tries to find ways not to pay and the doctor/hospital starts chasing you because the insurance company hasn't paid them yet.
Great system!
John
Last edited by Boreas; 06-29-2012 at 09:43 AM.
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