Scotus predicitons re: Obamacare

[piece-itpete]

Ice I think you are correct, I think it's wailing too

Pete

[icenine]

Originally Posted by Boreas

If my prediction is correct it'll be on both sides.

John

Yours may be the worst outcome...no individual mandate to pay for the other parts of the bill everyone finds more palatable. Makes the situation worse than it is...unfundated mandate on steroids.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by icenine

Yours may be the worst outcome...no individual mandate to pay for the other parts of the bill everyone finds more palatable. Makes the situation worse than it is...unfundated mandate on steroids.

Yes, and potentially lethal to the Obama campaign.

John

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Individual mandate struck down 5 - 4. The rest upheld 6 - 3. That's why Nino is in such a foul mood.

John

I think the mandate may fall by an even larger margin, but I believe that other provisions of PPACA will not be struck.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Don, I think your only hope is Kennedy. Roberts, Scalia and Alito will not care a fig for the Commerce Clause since it's inconvenient to the service of their agenda. Thomas will vote however they do.

Hell, Thomas even changed his religion to the extreme Catholic Opus Dei sect at the urging of, and with the assistance of, Nino Scalia. Roberts may or may not also be Opus Dei but he sends his kids to a private Opus Dei school. There is speculation that Alito, also a Catholic, may be Opus Dei too.

John

Thomas is just another head on Scalia's body. The Supreme court may be an institution deserving of respect, the Roberts court not so much.

[whell]

Originally Posted by icenine

Yours may be the worst outcome...no individual mandate to pay for the other parts of the bill everyone finds more palatable. Makes the situation worse than it is...unfundated mandate on steroids.

Not necessarily. There are elements of the Act that enjoy broad support, such as the prohibition against denying coverage for pre-ex conditions, coverage for dependents up to age 26, etc.

There is a strong likelyhood that the funding provisions (taxes) in PPACA will also be upheld, which should make those on the left happy as clams.

[d-ray657]

The federal court here puts on a yearly seminar and one of the regular speakers is a constitutional law professor who is a walking encyclopedia of Supreme Court History (He is the founding dean of the UC-Irvine Law School). It happens this Friday. I am looking forward to his comments on the decision, whatever it may be.

Regards,

D-Ray

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Thomas is just another head on Scalia's body.

Finally, the Justice department becomes fully integrated

Pete

[merrylander]

If it is struck down then the pressure for a singlepayer type plan should increase as we simply cannot afford the cost of the current system.

[bhunter]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Individual mandate struck down 5 - 4. The rest upheld 6 - 3. That's why Nino is in such a foul mood.

John

Tough call, however, 5-4 seems the popular choice. That said, I'm going 7-2 that the mandate is struck down and 9-0 upholding the rest of the legislation. In this case, a SCOTUS punt seems appropriate and moving the immplementation back to the legislature would do that IMHO.

A commentator recently pointed how political reporters find the absent of leaks perplexing because they are so used to dealing with the executive and legislative branches. That alone says much about the court IMHO.