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Old 06-24-2012, 11:56 AM
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Muslim Brotherhood Wins in Egypt

It'll be very interesting to watch the GOP trying to spin the Muslim Brotherhood's victory in Egypt's presidential election as some sort of mismanagement by Obama. It will probably resonate with the know-nothings in their base, but not with anyone who knows anything about the ongoing internal dynamics in Egypt.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:14 PM
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I saw that news move this morning. Obama is attached to this, Finn, however it turns out. Mubarak is gone and his exit was in part ushered along by Uncle Sam. The MB has their guy in the Prez's office in Egypt now, and the MB are not Boy Scouts.

However, it is still way to early to call, and Egypt is still a mess right now. The military is likely not going to sit by and allow a theocracy to bloom in Egypt. And the MB is not likely to let themselves be marginalized and they'll likely want a role in the affairs of the broader Middle East. I think they also have to reconstitute Parliament, which will add another dynamic.

Another 6 months to a year to see how this all shakes out.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:24 PM
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I saw that news move this morning. Obama is attached to this, Finn, however it turns out. Mubarak is gone and his exit was in part ushered along by Uncle Sam. The MB has their guy in the Prez's office in Egypt now, and the MB are not Boy Scouts.

However, it is still way to early to call, and Egypt is still a mess right now. The military is likely not going to sit by and allow a theocracy to bloom in Egypt. And the MB is not likely to let themselves be marginalized and they'll likely want a role in the affairs of the broader Middle East. I think they also have to reconstitute Parliament, which will add another dynamic.

Another 6 months to a year to see how this all shakes out.
I agree with your comments other than the degree of Obama attachment. A suicidal fruit vendor in Tunisia has far more to do with this than Obama.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:27 PM
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Next thing you will be telling us wellie is that Obama caused the recent earthquakes in Italy.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:48 PM
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Next thing you will be telling us wellie is that Obama caused the recent earthquakes in Italy.
He did,when he tripped and fell on the stairs at a fund-raiser last night.
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Old 06-24-2012, 12:59 PM
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I agree with your comments other than the degree of Obama attachment. A suicidal fruit vendor in Tunisia has far more to do with this than Obama.
The L A Times, and others, disagree. He was never going to use the bully pulpit to tell Mubarek to resign, but there are other avenues to apply pressure.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/feb...ategy-20110213
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Old 06-24-2012, 01:07 PM
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The L A Times, and others, disagree. He was never going to use the bully pulpit to tell Mubarek to resign, but there are other avenues to apply pressure.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/feb...ategy-20110213
That article seems to indicate something much less than complicity in Mubarek's demise. In any event, his departure was a good thing in terms of a possible democratic future in the Mideast. We'll see what happens.
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I guess we are anti democratic.
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I guess we are anti democratic.
No Don. We just want the best democracy that money can buy for ouselves and others. We're just making the world safe for it....
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Old 06-24-2012, 05:21 PM
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The new President will not remain member of the Muslim Brotherhood. he announced. He is wise to understand that once elected he represents all the people.


I'd like to see our Presidents adopt the same philosophy.

Actually put the country first.
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