I am a union man, born and bred and I'll die a union man.

[bobabode]

I agree with you Ice Nine on 99% of what you say but I'm gonna turn off my monoblock spaceheaters and get a cold drink and watch some soma television an' nod out. Back in a few....

Maggotbox 150 Spaceheater Deluxe Biamped Monoblocks (25watts Olde Skool.)
(Tube complement in each)
2)5U4GB
5)6V6GT
1)12AT7
1)6AT6
18 freakin'tubes in a computer desktop system. I use the term desktop loosely...JBL L80T3 floorstanding desktop speakers.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

I think workers should be protected and not taken advantage of but how long
can a company make it in this world economy paying high wages and trying
to compete with workers who live in straw huts and eat sticky rice? And should
my tax dollars be used to bail them out again? And how can the United States
generate revenue when there is no profit to be earned? And what about the
majority of American workers who do not earn tripple inflated union wages?
Are they expected to buy those same products on lower wages.
And who are the greedy ones again?

And, how are American workers at any rate, union or not, supposed to compete with people who live in straw huts and eat sticky rice? Why are we concentrated on dragging everyone down to the lowest common denominator rather than seek balance? Why should I have to give anything up because the schmuck down the street has no personal pride, nor balls enough to stand up for himself and would work like a slave for a bucket of gruel and a pat on the back?

How in the heck do we build an economy based on wages that do not support strong consumerism?

Look at what the median home price is and what the median wage is.
Then come back and tell me why homes don't sell. Not even in the "healthier" areas of the nation...........

Those are the real questions.

Dave

[HatchetJack]

You sound like a small business owner there Dave?

[Rex E.]

I'll bet these kinda things go on in your town also:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012...lls-57000-hou/

Sickening abuse at tax payer expense.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by HatchetJack

You sound like a small business owner there Dave?

No, I actually work for a living.

To be fair, most of the small business owners I know do work quite hard. Some say they do, but it's not hard to see they're full of shit if you watch them long enough. (There are several in my family.)

I consider most small business owners to be in the same boat most blue collar folks are. (The big boys pulling down million dollar salaries over at Megalithic Giganto-Corp have NOTHING in common with the rest of us.) That being said, I do believe they have been over-lionized. Anytime politicians start telling any segment of society that they are the "engine of the economy" or the "center of the universe", or whatever......LOOK OUT! There's trouble coming.

Seriously.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Rex E.

I'll bet these kinda things go on in your town also:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2012...lls-57000-hou/

Sickening abuse at tax payer expense.

It appears you had "Sickening abuse at taxpayers expense."
Looks like it's been dealt with.

Dave

[finnbow]

I don't buy the whole "race to the bottom" rhetoric when it comes to public sector employees. For the most part, there is no threat of outsourcing police, firemen, teachers/professors, school employees, etc.

[Rex E.]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

It appears you had "Sickening abuse at taxpayers expense."
Looks like it's been dealt with.

Dave

For how many years though before someone took a look at those saintly public union employees.

Notice Dave, it was the fat asses sitting behind the desks with most of the abuse. guess what, they are in unions also.

A drop in 57K hours in two years does not alarm you? That is 6.5 years worth of sick time abuse that's been going on for how long..........?

[icenine]

Originally Posted by finnbow

I don't buy the whole "race to the bottom" rhetoric when it comes to public sector employees. For the most part, there is no threat of outsourcing police, firemen, teachers/professors, school employees, etc.

They dont go away....the positions will remain...but what type of services will you get if they are underpaid and/ or at the mercy of the current administration. Political patronage can be a bad thing....sorry if I offended you but I am a public employee myself..

The current antigovernment vibe isjust too much for me sometimes....

[icenine]

Originally Posted by bobabode

I agree with you Ice Nine on 99% of what you say but I'm gonna turn off my monoblock spaceheaters and get a cold drink and watch some soma television an' nod out. Back in a few....

Maggotbox 150 Spaceheater Deluxe Biamped Monoblocks (25watts Olde Skool.)
(Tube complement in each)
2)5U4GB
5)6V6GT
1)12AT7
1)6AT6
18 freakin'tubes in a computer desktop system. I use the term desktop loosely...JBL L80T3 floorstanding desktop speakers.

Yeah thanks. Illtone it down a bit mygoal is to be the Mezz of the left (middle)