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06-20-2012, 11:06 AM
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Bloomberg Poll of Likely Voters: Obama 53% vs Romney 40%
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06-20-2012, 11:27 AM
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It's that close?
Wait until the three scheduled debates.
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06-20-2012, 11:30 AM
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Really too early to start weeping.
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06-20-2012, 11:42 AM
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Really too early to start weeping.
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Maybe but it's indicative of a trend. The gap between these two is widening. The more people are exposed to Romney the less they like what they see.
As Lincoln said, you can fool all of the people some of the time, you can fool some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool all of the people all of the time. More and more, people are seeing that Willard is a sociopath, a liar who will say or do anything to get what he wants. We're still not recovered from the last one of those we had in the White House.
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06-20-2012, 11:57 AM
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The RCP average is Obama +2.3 . There is something wrong with the Bloomberg poll at +13. I don't doubt that Obama has an advantage, but all the other polls have it significantly less than +13; hence, either Bloomberg's is in error or all the other polls are. My wager is on the forrmer.
Of course, we must also remember that Obama's is the incumbent and ought have a lead at this point.
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06-20-2012, 12:10 PM
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The RCP average is Obama +2.3 .
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Seriously? RCP? Real Clear Politics, or as I like to call it, Rightwing Christian Propaganda is an organization dedicated to combating "anti-conservative, anti-Christian media bias". They are hardly an objective source.
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There is something wrong with the Bloomberg poll at +13.
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Oh, of course there is!
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I don't doubt that Obama has an advantage, but all the other polls have it significantly less than +13; hence, either Bloomberg's is in error or all the other polls are. My wager is on the forrmer.
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As I understand it, the difference problem resides in the samples. The other polls have,either largely or entirely,of registered voters but this new Bloomberg poll is of likely voters. That's an important distinction since it pretty much winnows out the uninterested and uninformed and also reflects more accurately what the vote will be.
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06-20-2012, 12:32 PM
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Seriously you repubs don't want the Whitehouse yet, y'all have to wait untild the dems turn the economy around and get a surplus going for y'all to piss away again.
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06-20-2012, 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Boreas
Seriously? RCP? Real Clear Politics, or as I like to call it, Rightwing Christian Propaganda is an organization dedicated to combating "anti-conservative, anti-Christian media bias". They are hardly an objective source.
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Their commentary might not be objective, but there is nothing wrong with their polls from the various pollsters. They're not the ones doing the polls and defining the methodology of the polls they cite. If you want to surf around, you can go to the pollster's own web sites to confirm the RCP site's numbers.
Even considering the difference between "likely" and "registered" voters, the Bloomberg number still seems too large. The methodology of selecting the pool of likely voters from the sample pool could be in error. What questions were asked and the various weight given to those questions are all in play while determining who is and who isn't a likely voter.
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06-20-2012, 02:37 PM
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Think about it. Unemployment rate it 8.2 percent....and no one is really talking about it.
It is all immigration,contraception, Holder, health care and the war on women. Romney cannot even stake out a postion without the little hamster in his brain having to go into default mode..."Ill talk (deal with, go to my advisors, do that when I am elected) later"
Obama is going to do what Clinton did to Dole, and Romney is no Bob Dole. Go to Home Depot and buy some more barbed wire for your compound Bhunter you are going to have four more years of Obama.
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06-20-2012, 02:43 PM
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One thing I like about the left, as long as it's something you like you're real optimists
Pete
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