PPACA and Scotus

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by wgrr

Does Little Rock, AR Central High Federal government forced integration, in 1957, ring a bell. If something is unconstitutional, and violates your rights, The Feds can step in and force states to comply with the US Constitution. It has been done before.

Exactly.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

I see what you're saying, but the Feds are limited in their authority over States. In theory the States have much much more power over individuals than the Feds do.
So yes, if Virginia decides it wants to force you to buy insurance, they can, if it's allowed under their State constitution. It is their sphere of power, not neccessarily the Feds.

Pete

So if Maryland decides that the First ammendment does not apply to we Marylanders that is OK? In which case you may as well set fire to the Constitution because it is meaningless.

[whell]

Originally Posted by icenine

I remember a conservative on tv saying once an industry is regulated it generally becomes stronger and more immune,citing the auto insurance companies as an example. So if one is forced to buy health insurance that would seem to be a boone to health insurance companies. The SEC has not hurt Wall Street as we all know. So now Blue Shield etc will be a sort of partner with the Feds. So if the Republicans ditch the Obamacare they would be hurting a big business community?
Scratch a tea bagger and you will find a person who loves his or her mandated socialized medicare or if they are young too ignorant to realize they will need it to someday.

How many regulated banks have disappeared in the last few years?

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by whell

How many regulated banks have disappeared in the last few years?

Unfortunately there is no possible way to regulate mis-management.

[whell]

Originally Posted by merrylander

So if Maryland decides that the First ammendment does not apply to we Marylanders that is OK? In which case you may as well set fire to the Constitution because it is meaningless.

MA decided that all it's citizens are required to purchase health insurance. The Federal government cannot proactively esstop a state from taking such action. There is no provision for it in the Constitution. The Fed has options, however. It can use the power of the purse to coerce the state to act or not act in a certain manner, for example.

However, the citizens of that state must also act to protect their rights. There has been little legal activity in MD regarding the healthcare mandate. The citizens of MD would need to bring suit in Federal court challenging the constitutionality of the MD health care law. So far, it hasn't happened. Now, if the SCOTUS throws out the Obamacare individual mandate, it might happen. But even if SCOTUS throws out the Obamacare mandate, it would not be a slam dunk that The SCOTUS decision would serve as a guide for legal treatment of the MD health care statute.

[whell]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Unfortunately there is no possible way to regulate mis-management.

No, but regulation of banks creates an available pool of money to bail out mis-management.

[piece-itpete]

The sheer misunderstanding of how our government works is amazing and a chilling condemnation of our school system.

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

It is completely useless toilet paper anyways, so long as the states can ignore my constitutional rights and make up their own. Whoever set it up that way was an idiot. No wonder we have nothing but argument and turmoil. There, still enjoying your conversation?

And, yes, of course I built it myself. And, as time goes by, I'll be modding it myself. I build my own speakers too.

Dave

Sure! I always enjoy talking to yous guys

The ways of electronics are a mystery to me. Hope it sounds great!

Originally Posted by wgrr

I... It interferes with free enterprise and it is soci@lism.

Even our pre-Obamacare system was about as free enterprise as the power grid.

Pete

[piece-itpete]

Btw, I think a big one's been missed - the Feds force us to pay into SS, a retirement racket XXXXXX oops, I mean fund

Pete

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by whell

However, the citizens of that state must also act to protect their rights. There has been little legal activity in MD regarding the healthcare mandate. The citizens of MD would need to bring suit in Federal court challenging the constitutionality of the MD health care law. So far, it hasn't happened. Now, if the SCOTUS throws out the Obamacare individual mandate, it might happen. But even if SCOTUS throws out the Obamacare mandate, it would not be a slam dunk that The SCOTUS decision would serve as a guide for legal treatment of the MD health care statute.

Probably because the people here seem to be in favour of PPACA. The State also looks out for people without coverage.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by whell

No, but regulation of banks creates an available pool of money to bail out mis-management.

If you mean FDIC that was a good idea, to bad Sheila Bair retired, she is one smart lady.