What would you say about the media...

[merrylander]

Sorry noon, Rupert applied for and was naturalized as a U.S. citizen about a year or two ago. Not that this makes him any less a scheming bandit.

But we don't need some nanny to watch over our TV viewing, anyone whose IQ at least matches their age know FOX for what it is, serving the schemes of Murdoch to take over all the media in the world.

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by Charles

If you watch, they all pretty much report the same stories...only with a different spin. Entertainment Tonight masquerading as the news.

"News" doesn't have spin. I've heard the tired explanations of the "Liberal Media" and even the most venomous detractors say it is an unintentional addition of personal beliefs. Fox "spin" is not unintentional.

And Chas, some of us are offended by the derisive term "libs". We're just Americans expressing our opinion.

[Fast_Eddie]

Originally Posted by merrylander

But we don't need some nanny to watch over our TV viewing, anyone whose IQ at least matches their age know FOX for what it is, serving the schemes of Murdoch to take over all the media in the world.

I agree. I wish the bar you set applied to voting rights.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Fast_Eddie

I agree. I wish the bar you set applied to voting rights.

Unfortuantely they won't allow that, I always wondered if I ever committed a crime where they would find a jury.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by merrylander

Unfortuantely they won't allow that, I always wondered if I ever committed a crime wher they would find a jury.

lOL, it would be difficult.

[Charles]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

Chas, it sounds like you are agreeing with one of the primary criticisms of Fox. To pretend to be neutral and instead advance an agenda - in a means-spirited way, I might add - is flat dishonest. The confrontational style that Fox misidentifies as fair and balanced almost appears to be designed to provoke the type of reaction that you see here.

Here is an example of their confrontational style. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZ9gXD0wSRo

Just because I believe that it would be a dangerous policy to criminalize the type of conduct in which Fox engages does not mean I believe that they are ethical or honest.

I don't mind being called a lib or a lefty, just don't call me Johnson. I do have serious issues with the values espoused by the Right. I believe that they value money over human beings, that they look down on those who have not been as fortunate as they. They act as if it is the fault of the poor for being poor, but advocate policies that make it harder for workers to get their fair share. They also show tremendous arrogance in claiming to have a stranglehold on the truth. It does become difficult to seriously consider such views, because it appears that the only way to come to an understanding is to see it their way.

Regards,

D-Ray

I do agree. Being fair and balanced is a high bar, and one that Fox is unable to leap. Are they more fair and balanced than CBS, NBC, ABC, ETC...probably not. Are they less F&B than the above, once again, probably not.

At times they seem to address issues that the other networks won't, which is their only redeeming quality in my eyes.

Your clip of Megan Kelly is the rule and not the exception. The majority of Fox's coverage is commentary, pretty much right leaning, their anchors remind me of some smart assed college kid who they won't jet join the debating team because he doesn't know when to shut up, their actual newcasts are nothing more than a series of car chases, intertwined with other mindless bullshit, and I find it difficult so sit through the 90% of the trash in order to catch the 10% of some thing of conquesence.

When you get down to it, I don't really like any of the networks. What did Mencken say about a journalist being someone who is unable (or unwilling) to differate between a bicycle wreck and the end of civilization?

BTW, I don't see you as a liberal, only because you appear to be to complex to be defined by a single term.

No doubt that some on the right demonstrate the qualities that you have listed above. While not an excuse for their behavior, I've noticed pretty much the same arrogant qualities coming from the left. Different policies to be sure, but the same arrogance.

Anyway, the time has come for me to report back to beer camp. I need to round up the chuck eyes, my gambling money, fishing pole, sidearm.....and more beer.

Have a good day, and I would never call you Johnson. Not even behind your back!!!!!

Chas

[BlueStreak]

It's not a matter of whether what you're hearing is or isn't bullshit.
It's a matter of whose bullshit is more appealing to you?

Dave

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

I don't mind being called a lib or a lefty, just don't call me Johnson. I do have serious issues with the values espoused by the Right. I believe that they value money over human beings, that they look down on those who have not been as fortunate as they. They act as if it is the fault of the poor for being poor, but advocate policies that make it harder for workers to get their fair share. They also show tremendous arrogance in claiming to have a stranglehold on the truth. It does become difficult to seriously consider such views, because it appears that the only way to come to an understanding is to see it their way.

Regards,

D-Ray

Can you say "Calvinism"?

John

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Can you say "Calvinism"?

John

I'd seen you mention "Calvinism" before, but didn't know what that meant.
So, I took the time to read up. Wow, does that smack the nail directly, flat square on the head. Man, you guys are smart. I am learning so much.

Thanks, John.

Dave

[merrylander]

Someone mentionned Mencken, this quotation is probably what he would have said about Fox;

"No one ever lost money underestimating the taste of the Americn public."