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[Boreas]

Originally Posted by JCricket

Hey Boreas,
First I have to say I am very rusty. It has been a very long time since my involvement with the church. However, I was raised a Catholic. Not just the standard catholic, but groomed to be a priest. I was an alter boy for nearly 10 years. There were many(most weekends) I spent at the church cleaning the sacristy, polishing candle sticks, repairing the robes, etc. I served mass every single day. Funerals, weddings, baptisms, stations of the cross, First Friday devotions, knights of the altar, and so on. I was fully entrenched in the "catholic faith". By the age of 22 I had started to fall away from the faith. By 27 I quit. That was about 25 years ago. Since then i have completely stopped practicing.. My point is I have forgotten most of what I had learned.

Even so, the points above seem quite incorrect to me. People who never had the opportunity to learn of Christ were not dammed. I sure cannot remember what "happened" to their soul according to the church, but I am sure it wasn't hell. Also, for a sin to be committed, the individual had to know it was wrong and then commit the act. There was no ambiguity in this that I can remember. It was a prerequisite for all sins.

Don,
Your post made me think of something. Deliberate disobedience is not necessarily a sin. It depends on what "law" or "institution" you are defying. In fact, the obedience to an unjust or immoral law is in fact a sin. Your conscience is your guide.

You'll note that I said Christian and not Catholic. I was raised Catholic as well and Catholic doctrine regarding those who died in ignorance of the salvation to be found in Christ, and this in a state of original sin, spent eternity in Limbo. Other Christian denominations don't believe in Limbo and as a result believe that the unsaved are consigned to the flames.

As for the knowledge that an act is sinful being necessary, we have Ignorantia juris non excusat, or Ignorance of the law is no excuse. I may be making an error in conflating law with doctrine but most of our legal principles are derived from religion. And I once had a conversation with an acquaintance who made it most of the way through divinity school and it was his opinion that those born in ignorance of Christ were doomed to Hell.