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04-08-2016, 03:46 PM
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Most blacks are nuanced enough that they understood what Bill said. Even in the hood, blacks know who the bangers are, and most wish the gangs would disappear. That, and the drugs.
Like any other group of people, they don't like being preached to, but BILL Clinton and Obama both have garnered the respect that they can walk the street and be respected. Hillary is still a privileged white lady from the Chicago burbs, and everyone knows it. Bill is just as at home eating collards, ribs, and pinto beans as he is eating at a black tie gala.
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Yes, except Bill was talking to them on behalf of Hillary. So whatever he said is a reflection on her and that's the way the black people took it.
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04-08-2016, 03:52 PM
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Ok John
I was just mentioning some possibilities...he is on the short list.
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To be honest, if I was Hillary right now I would pick someone like Castro NOW. She is going to be at the convention, and most likely with a majority count. If she is afraid of losing the nomination or her momentum is going down she needs to amp it up.
Better to pivot to the national now and still have to fight off Bernie than wait too long to pivot after a bloody civil war when she may be really hurt but still the nominee.
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That would backfire imo. First of all this would look like she is once again gaming the system (like she did with DNC/DWS syndicate) and secondly broadcasting that she cannot win on her own merits. Berniacs like me would have a field day with that shameless pandering and besides lose whatever little respect we have for her.
You are no Carville ice.
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04-08-2016, 06:36 PM
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Well, it looks like gramma Hillary and grumpy old Bernie have kissed and made up.
What a stupid spat.
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04-08-2016, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by bobabode
Well, it looks like gramma Hillary and grumpy old Bernie have kissed and made up.
What a stupid spat. 
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Showing unity in the possibility of one of the two morons running against them gain the WH is prudent in the inevitably that the dominant candidate needs the support of the other's constituency to prevail.
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04-08-2016, 09:10 PM
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That would backfire imo. First of all this would look like she is once again gaming the system (like she did with DNC/DWS syndicate) and secondly broadcasting that she cannot win on her own merits. Berniacs like me would have a field day with that shameless pandering and besides lose whatever little respect we have for her.
You are no Carville ice. 
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It will turn out like I said. Just you wait and see.
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04-08-2016, 09:23 PM
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You are no Carville ice. 
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I wouldn't be too sure. http://www.carvel.com/
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04-09-2016, 10:12 AM
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And Democratic So************************m isn't scary over there.
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Actually, it has become so.
Early in this century you could drive from Inverness in Scotland to Vilnius in Lithuania without crossing a country governed by the right; the same would have been true if you had done the trip by ferry through Scandinavia. Social democrats ran the European Commission and vied for primacy in the European Parliament. But recently their share of the vote in domestic (and Europe-wide) elections has fallen by a third to lows not seen for 70 years (see chart 1). In the five European Union (EU) states that held national elections last year, social democrats lost power in Denmark, fell to their worst-ever results in Finland, Poland and Spain and came to within a hair’s-breadth of such a nadir in Britain.
http://www.economist.com/news/briefi...-thou-art-sick
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04-09-2016, 10:22 AM
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Actually, it has become so.
Early in this century you could drive from Inverness in Scotland to Vilnius in Lithuania without crossing a country governed by the right; the same would have been true if you had done the trip by ferry through Scandinavia. Social democrats ran the European Commission and vied for primacy in the European Parliament. But recently their share of the vote in domestic (and Europe-wide) elections has fallen by a third to lows not seen for 70 years (see chart 1). In the five European Union (EU) states that held national elections last year, social democrats lost power in Denmark, fell to their worst-ever results in Finland, Poland and Spain and came to within a hair’s-breadth of such a nadir in Britain.
http://www.economist.com/news/briefi...-thou-art-sick
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Read that.
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04-09-2016, 10:25 AM
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And Bernie now has the distinction of having won the WashPost's Worst Week in Washington.
First, Sanders did an interview with the editorial board of the New York Daily News. In the discussion, a transcript of which was posted on Monday, Sanders came across as the proverbial dog who caught the car. He struggled to explain (or to seemingly understand) the consequences of many of his policies and looked for all the world like someone who, in the words of Clinton, had not done his homework.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...mepage%2Fstory
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04-09-2016, 10:32 AM
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Some points scored there, Finn (by a paper clearly out to do it). However, it occurs to me that it doesn't matter how well one drives the train, if you're on the wrong track.
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