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[finnbow]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

I have a close friend, a die-hard republican who truly believes that the economic boom under President Clinton is a direct result of economic policies enacted by Reagan. Not even open for discussion, that's how deep his conviction is.

That's not surprising. Every single Republican believes that way.

[bobabode]

The only modern Repub president since Lincoln, (that I know of) who did some real good for the country was Ike. Every one since has been a poser or a bumbling fool. GHWB was essentially a good man far out of his depth.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by bobabode

The only modern Repub president since Lincoln, (that I know of) who did some real good for the country was Ike. Every one since has been a poser or a bumbling fool. GHWB was essentially a good man far out of his depth.

He was less out of his depth than Obama, IMHO. Plus, he had an excellent cabinet. His son, OTOH ...

Aside from Watergate, Nixon wasn't a complete fuck-up (though this reminds me of the phrase "Other than that, how did you enjoy the play, Mrs. Lincoln?")

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by finnbow

He was less out of his depth than Obama, IMHO. Plus, he had an excellent cabinet. His son, OTOH ...

Aside from Watergate, Nixon wasn't a complete fuck-up (though this reminds me of the phrase "Other than that, how did you enjoy the play, Mrs. Lincoln?")

I probably should have added that GHW had a great big pile of manure left on his plate by the Reaganauts and the evangelistas but given his bluenosed Yalie Connecticut upbringing and his tenure in the CIA, I was loath to trust him. I did appreciate how he handled the first Gulf war, it took great big balls not to press his luck by heading into Iraq after Swartzkopf cleared Saddam's Republican guard out of Kuwait.
No offense Pat but the gaping hole left for Obama to fill was magnitudes worse than what Old Man Bush faced and Obie won twice by some pretty historic numbers.
He's more moderate Republican than anything else, imo. That's his real problem and well, the wack right 'baggers in the House and Senate.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by bobabode

I probably should have added that GHW had a great big pile of manure left on his plate by the Reaganauts and the evangelistas but given his bluenosed Yalie Connecticut upbringing and his tenure in the CIA, I was loath to trust him. I did appreciate how he handled the first Gulf war, it took great big balls not to press his luck by heading into Iraq after Swartzkopf cleared Saddam's Republican guard out of Kuwait.
No offense Pat but the gaping hole left for Obama to fill was magnitudes worse than what Old Man Bush faced and Obie won twice by some pretty historic numbers.
He's more moderate Republican than anything else, imo. That's his real problem and well, the wack right 'baggers in the House and Senate.

I like Obama as a person and generally agree with his policies, at least when compared to those of today's GOP, particularly the Tea Party wing (to the extent they have any policies). He just lacks the experience and executive/leadership skills to get the job done. Not everyone is cut out to be a good executive. In fact, few are. The gutlessness/fecklessness of the Congressional Democrats didn't exactly help his cause either.

[bobabode]

Gawd, I wish there more real conservatives like you Pat. I really do, man.

We can disagree on issues but you don't have a head fulla concrete and rebar like some of the other conservomaniac guys and gals I run across. It must be your engineering background or something, (other than the heavy metals leached by acid rain in that Maryland drinking water you folks have.)

First round is on me at the Olney Ale House if I ever get back to Md. again.
Hmmm, the wife keeps threatening me with a trip to Bridgeport, Conn...
Ya never know, mebbe in the spring.

[Rajoo]

Originally Posted by finnbow

That's not surprising. Every single Republican believes that way.

Does our Whell believe this? Or do I need to take your word for it?

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by BeamOn

Does our Whell believe this? Or do I need to take your word for it?

I'd bet the farm.