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Old 04-25-2013, 02:16 PM
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Oh yeah Wilson...wasn't he the the Federal Reserve and national graduated income tax guy?

get over it tea party low info types!
I think he was also the League of Nation President and most of all he wanted to bust the looming concentrations in financial institutions but got distracted by WW1.
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Old 04-25-2013, 02:26 PM
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I think he was also the League of Nation President and most of all he wanted to bust the looming concentrations in financial institutions but got distracted by WW1.
I thought that was Rooosevelt?
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Old 04-25-2013, 06:15 PM
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I thought that was Rooosevelt?
Theodore Roosevelt attempted some trust busting until he was stymied by the Supreme Court "Rule Of Reason".

Woodrow Wilson campaigned vociferously against the looming concentration of financial power. He was deflected by WW1

A read of FDR famous "Commonwealth Club Address(1932)" is instructive.
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Old 04-25-2013, 06:24 PM
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Theodore Roosevelt attempted some trust busting until he was stymied by the Supreme Court "Rule Of Reason".

Woodrow Wilson campaigned vociferously against the looming concentration of financial power. He was deflected by WW1

A read of FDR famous "Commonwealth Club Address(1932)" is instructive.
Is that the one where he welcomed their hatred?
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Old 04-25-2013, 06:28 PM
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Is that the one where he welcomed their hatred?
No, that was a 1936 campaign speech. Very effective, too.

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Old 04-25-2013, 02:41 PM
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I think he was also the League of Nation President and most of all he wanted to bust the looming concentrations in financial institutions but got distracted by WW1.
Actually bro he wanted America to join it but faced opposition from Senate isolationsists...the consensus is that because Wilson refused to compromise with the Senate (IIRC Taft Republicans? It has been awhile since college) we never joined the League and thus it was way weaker without us and could not stop Hitler later on. Wilson was so above compromise he deep sixed the League even though he wanted us to join it.

Wilson was also very traditionally old Democratic in regards to the apatheid existing in the South at the time. His lillywhite policy of not interfering with Jim Crow gave him the support of the Southern states during his election campaigns.
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Actually bro he wanted America to join it but faced opposition from Senate isolationsists...the consensus is that because Wilson refused to compromise with the Senate (IIRC Taft Republicans? It has been awhile since college) we never joined the League and thus it was way weaker without us and could not stop Hitler later on. Wilson was so above compromise he deep sixed the League even though he wanted us to join it.

Wilson was also very traditionally old Democratic in regards to the apatheid existing in the South at the time. His lillywhite policy of not interfering with Jim Crow gave him the support of the Southern states during his election campaigns.
Amazing, how racism is still used as a political tool after all of these years, isn't it?

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Old 04-25-2013, 03:11 PM
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Amazing, how racism is still used as a political tool after all of these years, isn't it?

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Yes....although we have made great progress as a nation since then.....not perfect but great. The recent effort at voter suppression indeed effects people of color,even though the effort behind it may not be targeting skin color but rather what party a group is perceived to belong to. The terrible outcome and negative impact on our nation is the same however.

Presidents are a product of their times...the truly great ones.... Lincoln, Teddy Roosevelt,FDR.....break the paradigm...or even just crack it.
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