Convince me to vote, someone.....

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

...who actually said that "the fundamentals of our economy are strong" as the friggin' economy was collapsing around him. And as clueless as this dolt was, his running mate was (and remains) even more clueless. BTW, 2008 didn't give us McCain/Palin, the GOP primaries/convention did. He was not foisted upon the party. They picked him and applauded his selection of the Wasilla Hillbilly.

As to the notion that everyone thinks that the government is too big, just what has the GOP done in the past or promised to do in the future that would change this? They've already said that they won't touch the DoD budget (other than to increase it) and won't touch entitlements either.

As for the assertion that "Bush Jr. was an immensely popular president," he left office as the single most unpopular President in American history. The only thing that helped his popularity was 9/11 and the Iraq War (pretty ironic in that they were both immense catastrophes that occurred on his watch).

http://www.hist.umn.edu/~ruggles/Approval.htm

"They read what they want to read..."

I said: "Bush Jr. was an immensely popular president, but the war was more the agenda than the economy in 2004..."

We actually agree on most of the rest. Just what has the GOP done about the expansive government? They've contributed to it, which is another reason that Obama won on 2008: McCain could not run with any credibility on a matter of importance to the Repub base, so many of them stayed home. Hell McCain and Wasilla Wilma actually took Repub campaign money, and then actually ran against the Repub party in their campaign ads. I think the Repub base would be sated with a pledge to reduce spending to 2008 levels, and hold the line as reasonably as possible to future increases. That, and refusing to release any further stimulus funds.

As to the primary giving us McCain, sure it did. But don't forget some shenanigans by Mccain and Huckabee, those stallwart moderates. Huckabee stayed in the campaign and refused to release his delegates in an effort to help give McCain the nomination.