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Old 08-12-2024, 01:31 PM
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You can't seem to get it thru your head that she's not running her campaign to please you. Is narcissism a MAGA trait?
This "waiting until the convention" argument is so transparent. Harris ran for the Dem nomination in 2020. She's served as VP. Your argument here is that:

- she has to wait until the campaign so she can be properly programmed;
- her prior opinions are irrelevant and should not be put forth as ideas / positions that are relevant in this election cycle (reminds me of the "Don't Look Behind the Curtain" scene from the Wizard of Oz).
- supports the argument that the Dems are not fielding Harris as the candidate she is. They're fielding her as the candidate that they want to convenience us she is.

You guys need to develop a talking point on this that isn't the obvious BS that this one is.
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Old 08-12-2024, 01:34 PM
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So please answer this, why didn't the Republican party put forth a platform in 2020? Because Trump had nothing to say? Figures, all he can do is talk shit.



America First or Trump First? And he lost badly, very badly. GA, AZ, NV?
And did he lose so badly because he did not put forth a platform?
Only thing of significance he said is "if I don't win, its because the election is rigged" (paraphrasing).

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"America-first agenda" though vague it sounds good. It allows the person hearing it or reading it to imagine all sorts of great things they imagine it to be. This is done purposely.
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Old 08-12-2024, 01:37 PM
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This "waiting until the convention" argument is so transparent. Harris ran for the Dem nomination in 2020. She's served as VP. Your argument here is that:

- she has to wait until the campaign so she can be properly programmed;
- her prior opinions are irrelevant and should not be put forth as ideas / positions that are relevant in this election cycle (reminds me of the "Don't Look Behind the Curtain" scene from the Wizard of Oz).
- supports the argument that the Dems are not fielding Harris as the candidate she is. They're fielding her as the candidate that they want to convenience us she is.

You guys need to develop a talking point on this that isn't the obvious BS that this one is.
Harris ran for the Dem nomination in 2020. So her positions should be out there, no? So again, who is it that will be doing this programming you say she will be undergoing?
Once again our whell is engaging of that time worn old Republican tactic...

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Old 08-12-2024, 01:38 PM
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Oh, I've gotten it through my head that the election is about that for you and yours. I think you're barking up the wrong tree, tilting at windmills, insert your favorite bromide here. But, hey, you do you, Finn.

Thanks for confirming that you believe that avoiding the press is a Harris campaign strategy.
She's been a candidate for all of 3 weeks and her convention is next week. Traditionally, campaigns don't even get into full swing until after Labor Day. Yet, she's already leading Trump in key swing states and she'll get another bump following the convention.

Your complaint is nothing but you grasping at straws now that your favorite sexual predator, fraudster, felon, insurrectionist and wannabe dictator is self-destructing. This election is not going to hinge upon the nuance of policy positions. It never has and won't this time either.
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Old 08-12-2024, 01:43 PM
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She's been a candidate for all of 3 weeks and her convention is next week. Traditionally, campaigns don't even get into full swing until after Labor Day. Yet, she's already leading Trump in key swing states and she'll get another bump following the convention.

Your complaint is nothing but you grasping at straws now that your favorite sexual predator, fraudster, felon, insurrectionist and wannabe dictator is self-destructing. This election is not going to hinge upon the nuance of policy positions. It never has and won't this time either.
tRump made this a popularity contest, which he is losing, which is really stewing his beef.
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Old 08-12-2024, 01:58 PM
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Your argument here is that:

- she has to wait until the campaign so she can be properly programmed;
- her prior opinions are irrelevant and should not be put forth as ideas / positions that are relevant in this election cycle (reminds me of the "Don't Look Behind the Curtain" scene from the Wizard of Oz).
- supports the argument that the Dems are not fielding Harris as the candidate she is. They're fielding her as the candidate that they want to convenience us she is.
That is not at all my argument. My argument is that putting forth policy positions at this moment won't be decisive and that your complaint is only being heard from certain press outlets (who need something to write about) and MAGAWorld (who need something to complain about) and it will fade into oblivion next Monday when the convention starts.

Harris is running against a sexual predator, fraudster, convicted felon, insurrectionist, wannabe dictator, pathological liar and malignant narcissist. For those of you who still support Trump after all of these revelations, nothing she says now will impact your vote. So why bother? She has a convention to prepare for, after which she'll have a press conference (as she has promised).

Above all, Democratic policy positions are already well understood unlike the GOP positions which reflect the momentary whims of an impulsive, delusional sociopath.
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Old 08-12-2024, 02:02 PM
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Harris so far has shown to be one shrewd very formidable and capable opponent.

Having the ability to punch back fast when needed. Drawing vast crowds and bring in the cash. The momentum is all hers right now.

Having a press interview matter little to her supporters. It matters more to the press and the hopeful in the maga world. Hopeful she will give them something to use against her.

What the cult fails to understand in trying to comprehend the Democratic Party and Harris's agenda. The Democratic party is not a one man show like the Republican Party is today.

She is working on this now with the convention starting very soon. That is the time and place to work out what her plans for the future are.
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Old 08-12-2024, 02:10 PM
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You simply can't get it through your head that the key issue in this election is democracy vs autocracy and the danger that Trump represents to our democratic republic.
Nope. Now, when it's time to stand up for America, all he wants to do is sink his little teeth into our ankles. Patriotism wise, he's a shithole. I basically can't stand to waste time on him these days. One of his rhetorical turns triggered me slightly a bit ago, but I'll remember not to do it again for a while.
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Old 08-12-2024, 02:28 PM
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Your complaint is nothing but you grasping at straws now that your favorite sexual predator, fraudster, felon, insurrectionist and wannabe dictator is self-destructing. This election is not going to hinge upon the nuance of policy positions. It never has and won't this time either.


Hope it stays that way for a long time.
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Old 08-12-2024, 02:34 PM
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And Trump picked him as his running mate, what a vote of confidence, eh?



Thanks whell, working from home today and man am I enjoying this day.
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