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Old 09-08-2020, 06:29 PM
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This is an old one, but it will do: 20 examples of Trump racism from the Huff Post.

If the Huff Post is too lefty for y'all, maybe you will prefer Republican Stuart Stevens writing in USA Today: Trump's Republican Party is defined by racism and those who tolerate it: GOP strategist
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Old 09-08-2020, 06:59 PM
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Is that your final answer?

You remind me of the guy that wrecked his car at 3 in the morning one Saturday on a corner in front of my house and hopped in a friends car and took off. The police came and were telling me a lot of these get called in as "stolen". Less than five minutes later the cop got a call on the radio that the car was stolen. Then the car that picked up the driver went by going the other direction. I told the cops that was the car that picked up the driver. One of them went after it and, about 15 minutes later, drove up with a passenger in the back seat. It was the guy I saw get out of the car.

He was also the owner.

BLM owns this, as well as the videos I posted just above this post. These are not Reichstag fire events, as much as leftists wish they were.
Rambling a bit aren't you.

The staging of violence by fake BLM protesters is widely known. It ain't gonna work.
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Old 09-09-2020, 06:40 AM
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This is an old one, but it will do: 20 examples of Trump racism from the Huff Post.

If the Huff Post is too lefty for y'all, maybe you will prefer Republican Stuart Stevens writing in USA Today: Trump's Republican Party is defined by racism and those who tolerate it: GOP strategist
It's not as lefty as CNN or NPR, but yeah, it's lefty.

My take on every point:
1. He said immigrants from Africa and Haiti come from “shithole countries”
They do. That's the non-politician saying it like it is. Why else would a black person in the US that feels they are repressed because of their color not want to move to Kenya, South Africa, or any other neighborhood in Wakanda, where their race is in charge. Heck, how about Haiti?
2. He asked a Korean-American intelligence analyst where “your people” are from, and implied that her ethnic background should determine her job. The author needs to learn the difference between implication and inference. Just because their own racist tendencies causes them to infer this from his words, doesn't mean Trump was implying it. It's why people obsessed with sex find sexual innuendo in innocent statements made by people who are NOT obsessed with sex. And this doesn't even touch on the cultural differences that matter. Heck, that's where we get the phrase DWA (Driving While Asian). It's a real thing. And the comical part is the first time I ever heard the phrase was from an Asian guy I worked with. He believed it to be a real thing. He should know, right?
3. He took more than 48 hours to denounce the white supremacist violence in Charlottesville, Virginia
Unlike a lot of leftists, he doesn't just jump into the Lynch mob like the left does. How many times must they walk back their original position as more info comes out. Remember, the only reason Charlottesville is a lingering story is because one frustrated guy ran people over. And as I type this, he is but one of many people that have run down protesters blocking the street and/or attacking their car. Whether that guy was a white supremacist, Antifa, BLM, KKK or any of the other radical alphabet soup organizations is really irrelevant. His action wasn't part of his organization's plans, like looting and rioting are for the other side. Add to that the leftist press' constant false narrative on what trump actually SAID, (And Biden is STILL doing it).
4. Some of his top advisers and Cabinet picks have histories of prejudice.
So? Who doesn't? Meanwhile, how is that affecting their job? What are they actually DOING that is racist.
Implied? Or is that a listener inference?

Meh. I've already spent too much time on this. My list contains stuff Trump has actually DONE to improve the lives of minorities. This is a list of innuendo. Come to think of it, the whole "he's a racist" nonsense against Trump depends on innuendo regarding what he says, ignoring what he has actually done for all minorities. And if this is Huffpo's A list, it proves my point.

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Old 09-09-2020, 07:11 AM
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Rambling a bit aren't you.

The staging of violence by fake BLM protesters is widely known. It ain't gonna work.
You said it better (and more succinctly) than me. Thanks.
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Old 09-09-2020, 08:50 AM
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He's laughably uninformed compared to the journalists and other sources I read daily, including HCR, and true conservative pundits like Jennifer Rubin and George F Will.

His "sources" are all Reich-wing propaganda, never real, facts-based journalism.

He constantly calls out others for doing exactly what he does without end - projecting, ad homs, etc. He's simply gaslighting, perhaps for some sad religious cult.

Yes, he's an ignorant clown. Charlie Manson would have had him for breakfast. He would have happily drunk Jimbo's Kool Aid.
Ad hom attack aside. Here is some help with the concept of "gaslighting": What is Gaslighting?

The article is excellent, but the comments are useful as well - and entertaining.

The entire article here (No copywrite problem):

The term originates in the systematic psychological manipulation of a victim by her husband in Patrick Hamilton’s 1938 stage play Gas Light, and the film adaptations released in 1940 and 1944. In the story, the husband attempts to convince his wife and others that she is insane by manipulating small elements of their environment and insisting that she is mistaken, remembering things incorrectly, or delusional when she points out these changes. The play's title alludes to how the abusive husband slowly dims the gas lights in their home, while pretending nothing has changed, in an effort to make his wife doubt her own perceptions. The wife repeatedly asks her husband to confirm her perceptions about the dimming lights, but in defiance of reality, he keeps insisting that the lights are the same and instead it is she who is going insane.

We are living in a perpetual state of gaslighting. The reality that we are being told by the media is at complete odds with what we are seeing with our own two eyes. And when we question the false reality that we are being presented, or we claim that what we see is that actual reality, we are vilified as racist or bigots or just plain crazy. You’re not racist. You’re not crazy. You’re being gaslighted.

New York State has twice as many deaths from Covid-19 than any other state, and New York has accounted for one fifth of all Covid-19 deaths, but we are told that New York Governor Andrew Cuomo has handled the pandemic better than any other governor. But if we support policies of Governors whose states had only a fraction of the infections and deaths as New York, we’re called anti-science and want people to die. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

We see mobs of people looting stores, smashing windows, setting cars on fire and burning down buildings, but we are told that these demonstrations are peaceful protests. And when we call this destruction of our cities, riots, we are called racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

We see the major problem destroying many inner-cities is crime; murder, gang violence, drug dealing, drive-by shootings, armed robbery, but we are told that it is not crime, but the police that are the problem in the inner-cities. We are told we must defund the police and remove law enforcement from crime-riddled cities to make them safer. But if we advocate for more policing in cities overrun by crime, we are accused of being white supremacists and racists. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

The United States of America accepts more immigrants than any other country in the world. The vast majority of the immigrants are “people of color”, and these immigrants are enjoying freedom and economic opportunity not available to them in their country of origin, but we are told that the United States is the most racist and oppressive country on the planet, and if we disagree, we are called racist and xenophobic. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

Capitalist countries are the most prosperous countries in the world The standard of living is the highest in capitalist countries. We see more poor people move up the economic ladder to the middle and even the wealthy class through their effort and ability in capitalist countries than any other economic system in the world, but we are told capitalism is an oppressive system designed to keep people down. So, we

ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

Communist countries killed over 100 million people in the 20th century. Communist countries strip their citizens of basic hman rights, dictate every aspect of their lives, treat their citizens like slaves, and drive their economies into the ground, but we are told that Communism is the fairest, most equitable, freest and most prosperous economic system in the world. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

The most egregious example of gaslighting is the concept of “white fragility”. You spend your life trying to be a good person, trying to treat people fairly and with respect. You disavow racism and bigotry in all its forms. You judge people solely on the content of their character and not by the color of their skin.

You don’t discriminate based on race or ethnicity. But you are told you are a racist, not because of something you did or said, but solely because of the color of your skin. You know instinctively that charging someone with racism because of their skin color is itself racist. You know that you are not racist, so you defend yourself and your character, but you are told that your defense of yourself is proof of your racism. So, we ask ourselves, am I crazy? No, you’re being gaslighted.

Gaslighting has become one of the most pervasive and destructive tactics in American politics. It is the exact opposite of what our political system was meant to be. It deals in lies and psychological coercion, and not the truth and intellectual discourse. If you ever ask yourself if you’re crazy, you are not. Crazy people aren’t sane enough to ask themselves if they’re crazy. So, trust yourself, believe what’s in your heart. Trust your eyes over what you are told. Never listen to the people who tell you that you are crazy, because you are not, you’re being gaslighted.

Sophocles said: "What people believe prevails over the truth."

And that's what the media are trying to exploit.

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Old 09-09-2020, 09:07 AM
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Trump is shouting his racism. He must be stopped.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...b9f_story.html

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Trump’s message to Whites is unmistakable: Be afraid. Those people — you know who I mean — are trying to take over your country. I will stop them.

All of this is nothing less than undisguised white supremacy. Trump wants White voters to fear the Black Lives Matter movement. He wants them to see it not as a demand for justice and fairness but as a mortal threat to White privilege — to fear the very concept of White privilege as some kind of attack.

It is easy to understand why Trump wants to talk about something — anything — other than his record. He cannot credibly defend his administration’s abysmal performance on the covid-19 pandemic. He cannot credibly brag about an economy that is struggling to recover from the sharpest, deepest downturn since the Great Depression. He hasn’t built but a fraction of his promised border wall, and Mexico hasn’t paid a cent for it.

And race-baiting has been part of the Trump shtick all along. “I want [the Democrats] to talk about racism every day,” Stephen K. Bannon, then working in the White House as chief strategist, said in 2017, following the deadly clash between white supremacists and anti-racism protesters in Charlottesville. “If the left is focused on race and identity, and we go with economic nationalism, we can crush the Democrats.”
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Old 09-09-2020, 09:21 AM
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Trump is shouting his racism. He must be stopped.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...b9f_story.html
Pretty funny. I interpreted "those people, you know who I mean" to mean Antifa.
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Old 09-09-2020, 09:30 AM
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Radicalize - The Lincoln Project

t’s time we say it: Donald Trump is radicalizing our young men to become killers.

https://youtu.be/z1M26Wnme-8
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Old 09-09-2020, 10:10 AM
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Radicalize - The Lincoln Project

t’s time we say it: Donald Trump is radicalizing our young men to become killers.

https://youtu.be/z1M26Wnme-8
The Lincoln Project I have much respect for.

They honestly depict TRump as he is, a total piece of crap.
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Old 09-09-2020, 10:50 AM
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The Lincoln Project I have much respect for.

They honestly depict TRump as he is, a total piece of crap.
This may speak to why Patton was not admired by many, but sure did his job well for the country. It also speaks to why I have compared Trump to Churchill ever since mid 2017. A man for his time. A man needed by his time. And then they'll toss him out like an old pair of shoes.

I LOVE what Trump is accomplishing. And one of the things on that list is outing the leftism and leftists in power in the US.

This is fun and informative, regarding the Lincoln project:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNvuYPpX0C0
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