Why BLM and Antifa are not credible

[Oerets]

My thoughts are mixed and evolving with events. I feel for the protests but see they are not unified with a group accepted as lead negotiator's or a platform. A recognizable face or faces to push forward the ball peacefully.
Then also realizing as of this typing no real actions have been undertaken by the authorities in bring to justice the officers or reforms see the distrust and expectation there may never be any of substance.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by BigElCat

Rickey probably has a higher standard of living than I do. Lots of black people do.

I live in racially mixed work class neighborhood, I care about my black neighbors a great deal (with one exception).

The flashpoints for the BLM don't work for me. I wish the protests would stop, they're not going to achieve equality. Only more violence.

Don't be so sure about that, although I do have a front & back porch (insider)

Where I live how one presents oneself has an effect on interactions with "the law", mostly. Most Blacks have a fear, more like a worry about encountering a LEO having a bad day. I've been at gunpoint once and what had me concerned was the guy would be akin to a young nervous Barney Fife.

The BLM cry, the protests are basically about raising awareness. Raising awareness that Blacks have had an abundance of instances where encounters with LEO's where they were treated as if their lives did not matter. The BLM protests in sympathy around the country and around the world are an acknowledgement of this. I wish the violence at protests was not happening. Anytime emotions run high thing can quickly go wrong. Unfortunately protests also provide easy cover for those who want to discredit them.

[donquixote99]

Speaking of raising awareness, here's an item posted on FB by Jack Daise:
[QUOTE]Let me tell you a story about racism. The first actual afro-latino valedictorian of Harvard Law School, Pedro Albizu Campos graduated in 1921. He graduated while simultaneously studying Literature, philosophy, Chemical Engineering, and Military Science. He was fluent in six modern and two classical languages: English, Spanish, French, German, Portuguese, Italian, Latin, and ancient Greek.

Pedro was denied the valedictorian distinction by a professor who delayed his final grade to keep him from having the highest grade point average in the 1921 class. They wanted to avoid the "embarrassment" of having a black Puerto Rican be the valedictorian of one of the most prestigious law schools in the country.

Pedro Albizu Campos turned down a Supreme Court clerkship, multiple prestigious firm offers, and plum government appointments to go back to Puerto Rico and practice poverty law. Instead of making himself wealthy, he worked for folks and often receive payment in the form of chickens from poor farmers. He then began to lead the nascent independence movement of Puerto Rico. For this, he was targeted by Hoover's FBI and eventually thrown in prison for leading the independence movement. At the time, it was illegal to fly the Puerto Rican flag.

Pedro Albizu Campos suffered for years in prison and was subject to horrific torture and human experiments. They experimented on him using radiation. This was at a time where the U.S. military deliberately exposed Puerto Rican men to mustard gas to see how it affected them. He later suffered a stroke after a decade in prison and was pardoned and released only to die months later in 1965.

This is only a very brief retelling of this story. Racism is baked into the DNA of the United States government and how it's treated Puerto Rican people. Having a law degrees from an Ivy League school doesn't protect you when you go against the system. I recommend you read the book The War Against All Puerto Ricans to get a better picture of his life.

[BigElCat]

In that Arnold S. video, Arnold said something to the effect that 'BLM is not hatred, it's an irradiation of a cancer'.

Very clever.

Now look at this. This woman's rights are being violated. Look's like hatred to me.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/black-liv...135923562.html

[Mark B]

These protests attract provocateurs, anti-BLM agitators as well as persons looking at the protests as cover to loot, burn and foment chaos. Law enforcement is doing little if anything to deal with the actual criminal acts being perpetrated.

News reporting is not bringing enough attention to this.

[RickeyM]

Originally Posted by Mark B

These protests attract provocateurs, anti-BLM agitators as well as persons looking at the protests as cover to loot, burn and foment chaos. Law enforcement is doing little if anything to deal with the actual criminal acts being perpetrated.

News reporting is not bringing enough attention to this.

"News reporting" is more concerned with bringing you coverage of the action (violence).
I'm all for peaceful protests. I've been in many and a few here recently. When the curfew comes take your ass home. Too many out there use protests as cover for destruction & violence and shouldn't be able to hide among peaceful protests.

[Oerets]

I still have a time understanding why more dialogue at a resolution or steps forward are not happening.
Instead it appears the sides are getting more dug in and hardened.

Face it the BLM is not going away.


Has to be dealt with.

[donquixote99]

All progress on hold until after election. If Biden gets in, THEN the cop establishment will want to talk, with a revived Justice Department after them and their budgets on the line. Right now they're all in for Trump.

[nailer]

All is an exaggeration of course.

[Waggs098]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

All progress on hold until after election. If Biden gets in, THEN the cop establishment will want to talk, with a revived Justice Department after them and their budgets on the line. Right now they're all in for Trump.

Just curious why it matters who is president to reform each cities cops or each states troopers? They are all under control of the cities or states.