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Old 07-26-2020, 09:26 AM
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Old 07-26-2020, 10:44 AM
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Orange Shitstain Is Putting On a Show in Portland
The president* is deploying the kind of performative authoritarianism that Vladimir Putin pioneered.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...rtland/614521/

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Welcome to the world of performative authoritarianism, a form of politics that reached new heights of sophistication in Russia over the past decade and has now arrived in the United States. Unlike 20th-century authoritarianism, this 21st-century, postmodern influence campaign does not require the creation of a total police state. Nor does it require complete control of information, or mass arrests. It can be carried out, instead, with a few media outlets and a few carefully targeted arrests.

That these tactics are not “totalitarian” doesn’t make them legal, acceptable, or normal. I repeat: Citizens’ rights are being violated in Portland. People have been hauled off the streets into unmarked vehicles. Long-standing precedents about the relationship between states and the federal government have been overturned. Lawsuits have already been filed.

The chaos is also a tactic, and now it will be put to use. Now that it has been deliberately escalated, the violence will provide pictures, footage, video clips, and other material for Trump’s media supporters, and eventually for his campaign advertisements. On Fox News, Sean Hannity has already denounced Portland as a “war zone.” Tucker Carlson has spoken of protesters as “mobs” who keep liberal Democrats in power. The next stage will implicate Joe Biden in this same story: The president’s aides have told journalists that Biden, if he wins, will “allow left-wing fascists to destroy America.” Protesters, mobs, chaos, fascists, the left, the “Dems”, Biden—they’re all one narrative. The Trump administration will show people pictures of its uniformed troops pushing back against them, restoring order with a strong hand. And it will use the kind of language that appeals to that part of the population that prizes safety over all else.
Ignorant Trumpkins love a good show, "good" cops busting the heads of "bad" "libs". Faux "news" will play it up to the hilt for them.
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Old 07-26-2020, 12:48 PM
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President Virus is big on images. I wonder how he likes this?
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Old 07-26-2020, 12:49 PM
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Old 07-26-2020, 01:28 PM
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Seattle protesters set fire to juvenile detention center construction site

This is why Trump is sending in federal agents.

U.S. authorities say 18 Portland protesters face federal charges

Tactical extraction of instigators among protestors. Local police tried to do the same but were ineffectual because the protestors could easily identify the enforcers.
Please stop using the catchall term "protestors" when speaking of criminal acts that occur under the guise of protests.

Criminal acts such as violence, destruction of property and looting are committed as crimes of opportunity during protests. This should not be a surprise to law enforcement. Why they continue to bungle their response to these crimes boggles my mind.
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Old 07-26-2020, 01:47 PM
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Tactical extraction of certain persons. Instigators? Loaded term. Were they instigating violence? Or just constitutionally-protected free speech and assembly? Who instigated violence against Christopher David? Anyone going to extract those instigators?
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Old 07-26-2020, 02:18 PM
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Why they continue to bungle their response to these crimes boggles my mind.
Because protestors out number enforcers 10+ to 1 and the protestors prohibit the movement of law enforcers to get to crime scenes in a timely fashion? From law enforcement perspective, all protestors are the same: trouble.

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Were they instigating violence?
Considering 21 officers were injured, yes.

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Or just constitutionally-protected free speech and assembly?
There are limitations on assembly: see unlawful assembly.
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A meeting of three or more individuals to commit a crime or carry out a lawful or unlawful purpose in a manner likely to imperil the peace and tranquillity of the neighborhood.
Lawful assembly requires declaring a time and place of the protest and the city accommodates them. None of that happening lately.

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Who instigated violence against Christopher David?
He did. He approached the officers and attempted to engage with him. They did their job and drove him away.

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Anyone going to extract those instigators?
Legal departments are reviewing evidence of misconduct submitted to them.
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Old 07-26-2020, 02:38 PM
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Because protestors out number enforcers 10+ to 1 and the protestors prohibit the movement of law enforcers to get to crime scenes in a timely fashion? From law enforcement perspective, all protestors are the same: trouble.


Considering 21 officers were injured, yes.


There are limitations on assembly: see unlawful assembly.

Lawful assembly requires declaring a time and place of the protest and the city accommodates them. None of that happening lately.


He did. He approached the officers and attempted to engage with him. They did their job and drove him away.


Legal departments are reviewing evidence of misconduct submitted to them.
All you're doing is making excuses for why law enforcements f's up handling these situations properly.
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Old 07-26-2020, 02:41 PM
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That needs to be resolved in a court of law, not court of public opinion.
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Old 07-26-2020, 03:03 PM
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That needs to be resolved in a court of law, not court of public opinion.
No one suggested that the "court of public opinion" should try cases like these.

Charges should be brought against the Feds that assaulted peaceful citizens in Portand, but who does law enforcement charge with those offenses since those Feds displayed no identification?
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