Trump's Wall

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

I knew that's what he meant all along.

Only an idiot would believe that Mexico was going to write us a check.

The US can put plenty of economic pain on Mexico which will result in economic gain for us and loss for them.

There's a whole lot of idiots out there.

[Tom Joad]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

I'm wondering what impact a 35% re-importation tariff and a 20% tariff on other imported goods will have on INFLATION.

Again, don't get me wrong, I'd LOVE to see manufacturing return. But, anyone who thinks this won't come with a price is a damned fool. Especially with the simplistic and potentially reckless proposals being tossed about.

Stuffs gonna cost more when it's not being made by slave labor in overseas sweatshops.

And I won't like it, but I realize it will be for the best.

I'm already paying $6 a dozen for organic free range chicken eggs when I can get the the ones laid by chickens that are cooped up in a cage the size of a shoebox all their lives and fed the cheapest shit there is for $2 bucks a dozen.

I also pay $5 bucks a loaf for organic bread when I can get that wonderbread crap for $2 bucks.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

Stuffs gonna cost more when it's not being made by slave labor in overseas sweatshops.

And I won't like it, but I realize it will be for the best.

I'm already paying $6 a dozen for organic free range chicken eggs when I can get the the ones laid by chickens that are cooped up in a cage the size of a shoebox all their lives and fed the cheapest shit there is for $2 bucks a dozen.

I also pay $5 bucks a loaf for organic bread when I can get that wonderbread crap for $2 bucks.

At my age I will stay with the $2 crap.

[ebacon]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Trump is aiming for adjustments.

There is a constituency which bore the brunt of the integration. Such supports Trump. This constituency expects him to try.

At least they hope for a reduction in the chaos at the southern border.

I am feeling your comment about reduction in chaos, but honestly I do not understand the constituency etc that you mentioned. Just trying to explain my mindspace at the moment.

When President Trump mentioned a complex payment arrangement, or whatever words he used, I envisioned a contract that says the more you help us not build a fence the less fence we will build. Man Law.

Seriously though, IMO, before we contemplate a bigger wall we need to look at NAFTA with the benefit of hindsight. We essentially have a clean house to redecorate and Mexico is staged to provide the furnishings. Are we uncomfortable with staring at a blank canvas? To me that is where the fun work is. The art. City design. Nuevo Americana?

Building a wall would simply be kicking the can of redesign down the road.

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[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by ebacon

I am feeling your comment about reduction in chaos, but honestly I do not understand the constituency etc that you mentioned. Just trying to explain my mindspace at the moment.

When President Trump mentioned a complex payment arrangement, or whatever words he used, I envisioned a contract that says the more you help us not build a fence the less fence we will build. Man Law.

Seriously though, IMO, before we contemplate a bigger wall we need to look at NAFTA with the benefit of hindsight. We essentially have a clean house to redecorate and Mexico is staged to provide the furnishings. Are we uncomfortable with staring at a blank canvas? To me that is where the fun work is. The art. City design. Nuevo Americana?

Building a wall would simply be kicking the can of redesign down the road.

Constituency: The people who believe that the US is under siege at its southern border.

Hordes from all over the world force their way into the US through Mexico.
Trump's constituents feel Mexico is complicit since the transit is openly big business there.

Constituency: People whose jobs went to Mexico.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

Trump is aiming for adjustments.

There is a constituency which bore the brunt of the integration. Such supports Trump. This constituency expects him to try.

At least they hope for a reduction in the chaos at the southern border.

All this bullshit about Canada and Mexico ripping us off. The Iron Ore mine in Quebec is a shining example of how beneficial it is to trade with the US. America got all the ore and Canad got the shaft.

[Rajoo]

The Trump Wall to be self funding by the addition of solar panels to the wall.
Here then is Trump's answer to Illegal Immigration and Global Warming.
This is pure genius if I say so myself.

Trump suggests border wall with solar panels

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/06/politi...r-border-wall/

[donquixote99]

"Used solar panels flood Mexican market" (news item)

[barbara]

The wall itself is a bad idea.
But, if there is going to be a wall, solar panels seems like a good idea. I can't help but think that Trump will benefit financially from this idea should it happen. He doesn't do anything unless he gets his reward out of it.