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JCricket 01-26-2017 09:43 AM

Trump's Wall
 
Hey Folks,
Can anyone provide some info on this. I don't mean specifics of his motive, or size, cost etc of the wall. What I am wondering about is the legality of the wall. What does it take to actually make this happen? Executive orders? Act of congress? What

Thanks in advance!!!

bobabode 01-26-2017 10:06 AM

One stumbling block will be that "Trump's Folly" will have to be built on privately owned land. I guess he will have to invoke eminent domain in some of these cases. Not exactly a pillar of Republican thought.

Physically, it's fairly daunting. There is terrain it will have to cross that doesn't easily lend itself to building some sort of huge wall. Costs will have to be astronomical and congress holds the purse strings.

Personally, I'd rather see those billions (trillions?) of tax dollars go towards upgrading railroads (hi-speed rail), highways and other infrastructure such as cleaner energy production.

Just spit balling here on the left coast sans coffee...(grin)

Dondilion 01-26-2017 10:16 AM

I believe there is legislation enacted for some years now for the wall.

BTW the wall need not be physical in every sector.

Tom Joad 01-26-2017 10:19 AM

This is all you need to know. :D

“I will build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me. Believe me. And I’ll build it very inexpensively. I’ll build a great, great wall on our southern border and I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words,”

Donald J. Trump

Dondilion 01-26-2017 10:22 AM

Secure Fence Act of 2006

https://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Fence_Act_of_2006

finnbow 01-26-2017 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tom Joad (Post 345545)
This is all you need to know. :D

“I will build a great wall, and nobody builds walls better than me. Believe me. And I’ll build it very inexpensively. I’ll build a great, great wall on our southern border and I will have Mexico pay for that wall. Mark my words,”

Donald J. Trump

At least 3 lies there.

MrPots 01-26-2017 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobabode (Post 345540)
One stumbling block will be that "Trump's Folly" will have to be built on privately owned land. I guess he will have to invoke eminent domain in some of these cases. Not exactly a pillar of Republican thought.

.(grin)

I disagree. Those oil pipelines are all about confiscating property via eminent domain, they are pillars of republican thought.

JCricket 01-26-2017 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dondilion (Post 345546)

Thank You!!

CarlV 01-26-2017 02:19 PM

I still don't see Congress funding this fence nor funding any infrastructure either.


Carl

ebacon 01-26-2017 02:41 PM

Fun thread.

Aside from the legal hurdles and funding, I have been noodling on whether the wall would be effective in the long term.

Walls have been around a long time and, unless they are architecturally interesting, get torn down by political forces. In this case it seems that we are talking about an ugly wall and my guess is that no one wants to look at it for too long. Also, if we are building a wall and the purpose is to keep people out, then it should have few gates.

And there, in the number of gates, is the rub that I have. There will be gates for visitors, migration, and trade. Someone would need to tell me how they are going to gate the ugly thing in a way that satisfies an expected visitor, migration, and trade flow equilibrium. See, the bigger issue IMO, is that those in favor of the wall lean more toward a short term status-quo than a long-term equilibrium.

Just thinking out loud.


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