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08-20-2016, 04:12 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
Well, it certainly won't improve their behavior, that's for damn sure.
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How can you be so sure of that? I think you can't - you speak out of ideology, rather than on the basis of empirical evidence. It seems to me that having a reason to trust the U.S. might make a positive difference, however slight.
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08-20-2016, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by sheltiedave
We are a country that honors treaties and pays it's bills.
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Sure we do.
http://www.npr.org/sections/codeswit...eaties-exhibit
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08-20-2016, 04:43 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
Damn, you talk almost as tough as der Trumpenfuhrer.
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After eight years of Barack "Give Away the Store" Obama, it would be a refreshing change to hear some tough talk come out of the White House.
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08-20-2016, 04:49 PM
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Location: Behind the Orange Curtain in California
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
After eight years of Barack "Give Away the Store" Obama, it would be a refreshing change to hear some tough talk come out of the White House.
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You've gone completely 'Alt-right', haven't you, trumpkins?
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08-20-2016, 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by whell
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The street runs both ways!
Barney
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08-20-2016, 08:28 PM
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Location: Sonoma County, CA
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Originally Posted by whell
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They are right not to trust us. I don't trust us. When have we ever dealt with Iran in good faith?
July 7, 2016
May 15, 2016
These articles are about the same tests, not separate ones which is what you no doubt hope we'll assume.
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08-20-2016, 08:54 PM
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When the US plays dirty it is to be overlooked don't you know. The old saying seems to play well here...
""Do as I say not as I do!""
The US government thru it's CIA activities warranted to some degree granted have perpetrated bad acts. Still do to this day. Our hands are not clean to say the least.
Barney
Last edited by Oerets; 08-20-2016 at 08:57 PM.
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08-20-2016, 09:37 PM
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Location: Metro Detroit
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Originally Posted by Boreas
They are right not to trust us. I don't trust us. When have we ever dealt with Iran in good faith?
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Gee, I thought that was what the Iran Nuke Deal was all about? Obama wants improved relations with Iran as part of his legacy...apparently cost be damned.
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08-20-2016, 10:14 PM
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Location: The Swamp
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Originally Posted by whell
Does anyone remember why we are holding on to Iranian assets in the first place? As far back as the Carter administration, Iranian assets were frozen because of Iran's behavior - the take-over the US embassy and detaining US hostages. Obama did it again in 2012 because Iran was using its banking system as a money laundering function to fund terrorism...again, because of Iran's behavior.
I'm delighted that we got our hostages back, but does anyone think Iran's behavior will be changing anytime soon? Does anyone think that the money that was paid for the hostages - some or all of it - won't end up buying some terrorists some new toys to wreak havoc with?
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Or, we could have just sent them the "new toys" through a drug dealing South American dictator like Saint Ronnie did!
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