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[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by Tom Joad

A million unorganized grabastic pieces of amphibian shit with deer rifles.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78ICiQKdO-Q

Don't link it for me, I won't look at it. You can either type or you can't.

Maybe the rest of this lefty support group will get a kick out of it.

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

That just makes no sense to me Zeke. I'm not talking about defeating the German army. I'm talking about taking as many with you as you could, and perhaps at some point they decide it's not worth it. Or, knowing that they are all armed they never started it to begin with.

The Number One goal in certain situations is merely to survive for as long as you possibly can.

The stuff you mention above is pipe dream. Survive and wait for the cavalry, which you do by hiding/compliance/whatever until you possess some cards.

The above is just more of the same Gung-Ho bullshit that would have gotten more people killed in Orlando, for example.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

I would think that you may be on something.

Anybody who thinks the Jews were better off unarmed than if they had all been armed needs something.

As has been pointed out, I didn't say or imply the above.

I don't think the Jews were better off unarmed. I think it doesn't matter whether they were armed or not.

I think they, like any civilian population, armed or not, are basically helpless unless they have a powerful enough regular armed force between them and any trained organized armed force out to do them harm.

Basically, you have to be able to hold lines. If troops can get among civilians, it's all over. Your choices are to do as they say, or to die quick, with your family living for a while or dying quick too, depending on your choice.

Think a little of the advantages the troops have--all sorts of first line weapons, which they are practiced in using. Heavy weapons available: machine guns, mortars, and on up to armored vehicles and artillery.

They fight in disciplined groups where men specialize in various skills, organized into bigger and bigger groups, with command and control in the hands of selected men highly trained in their roles. They are all trained to use tactics suited to their task, that take advantage of all the strengths their organization gives them.

You know what happens when one untrained man with a rifle tries something against an outfit like that? We'll allow him first shot. He will almost always miss, then a couple of grenades get thrown, and it's all over. The army basically hardly notices his brave act of defiance.

If you imagine a group of trained, capable resistance fighters, they may wound or kill a few troopers, but the army will roll over them--and such groups will be few and far between.

And only incredibly desperate guys would try resistance, because they'd have to know they and their families will die quick as a result. In most situations, most aren't going to be that desperate.

[Zeke]

Precisely my point, spelled out in much better detail.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Don't link it for me, I won't look at it. You can either type or you can't.

Maybe the rest of this lefty support group will get a kick out of it.

Willful ignorance. Reinforces my point that you are just not WILLING to learn anything here, because it's us.

It's a movie clip showing a bit of marine training. Gives a notion, perhaps, of how and why trained troops are infinitely more dangerous than civilians with deer rifles. The single big thing: they fight as a unit.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Do you take Dramamine before you go online?

Thorazine.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Willful ignorance. Reinforces my point that you are just not WILLING to learn anything here, because it's us.

It's a movie clip showing a bit of marine training. Gives a notion, perhaps, of how and why trained troops are infinitely more dangerous than civilians with deer rifles. The single big thing: they fight as a unit.

No. I just don't look at links. I do appreciate your responses. Still think you are being illogical for the sake of ideology.

No doubt trained troops are more dangerous than civilians with deer rifles. But civilians with deer rifles are still quite dangerous.

[ZeroJunk]

Originally Posted by Zeke

The Number One goal in certain situations is merely to survive for as long as you possibly can.

The stuff you mention above is pipe dream. Survive and wait for the cavalry, which you do by hiding/compliance/whatever until you possess some cards.

The above is just more of the same Gung-Ho bullshit that would have gotten more people killed in Orlando, for example.

Remember the context. Survive long enough to go to a gas chamber ?

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

Remember the context. Survive long enough to go to a gas chamber ?

Your choices:

1. You find a way to get into some level of denial on that, which most didn't know anyway--either not at all, or not for a certain fact.
2. You and your family die quick.

Most are gonna go for the denial. It's the way people are wired. It's usually the best choice. Genocide is unusual.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by ZeroJunk

No. I just don't look at links. I do appreciate your responses. Still think you are being illogical for the sake of ideology.

No doubt trained troops are more dangerous than civilians with deer rifles. But civilians with deer rifles are still quite dangerous.

You do realize that 'Red Dawn' wasn't a documentary, right?