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12-22-2014, 01:18 PM
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And it's a nationwide movement spawned by a false narrative (i.e., that Brown was executed) that ultimately resulted in 2 NYC cops getting murdered. I prefer to have movements I ascribe to to be based in fact and not crowd-sourced rumor.
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It's way bigger than the Michael Brown shooting.
That was just the straw that broke the Camels back and released the pent up anger caused by decades of Police abuse against the black communities in this country. And as much as you and your buddy Zeke would like to pretend it's going to go away, it's not.
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12-22-2014, 01:19 PM
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Funny, there aren't too many citizens benefiting from Brown's death in Ferguson.
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And here's the point you don't get: Nor should they be.
A robber assaults an officer, placing him in fear of his life, and gets killed.
Citizens shouldn't "profit," they should just cease assaulting officers.
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12-22-2014, 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
It's way bigger than the Michael Brown shooting.
That was just the straw that broke the Camels back and released the pent up anger caused by decades of Police abuse against the black communities in this country. And as much as you and your buddy Zeke would like to pretend it's going to go away, it's not.
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I never once have contended that police brutality isn't a problem/issue. However, from the beginning I have said that the use of the Michael Brown case to make this point is probably counterproductive (i.e., Wilson's innocence provides an easy way for those who don't believe in police brutality to dismiss it out of hand.)
As usual, you missed my point.
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12-22-2014, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Zeke
And here's the point you don't get: Nor should they be.
A robber assaults an officer, placing him in fear of his life, and gets killed.
Citizens shouldn't "profit," they should just cease assaulting officers.
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But Wilson did to the tune of what, three quarter mil? So was Wilson already a non-citizen then since we know that he no longer is of Ferguson? Your common sense seems to be diminishing by the post. May want to rethink before you post.
Imagine, Wilson killed Brown in a county where most make minimum wage and then he gets paid for doing one interview an amount of money that some of these people cannot even count that high. And what is it that you want to tell them again, oh! behave and obey the law? Sure. Then why have cops at all?
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12-22-2014, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
I never once have contended that police brutality isn't a problem/issue. However, from the beginning I have said that the use of the Michael Brown case to make this point is probably counterproductive (i.e., Wilson's innocence provides an easy way for those who don't believe in police brutality to dismiss it out of hand.)
As usual, you missed my point.
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Who says Wilson is innocent?
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12-22-2014, 01:43 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
I never once have contended that police brutality isn't a problem/issue. However, from the beginning I have said that the use of the Michael Brown case to make this point is probably counterproductive (i.e., Wilson's innocence provides an easy way for those who don't believe in police brutality to dismiss it out of hand.)
As usual, you missed my point.
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And yet you accept the legal decision and exonerate the system that proclaimed that Wilson shot and killed Brown in self defense! Wow.
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12-22-2014, 01:51 PM
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Who says Wilson is innocent?
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Innocent until proven guilty (which he wasn't).
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12-22-2014, 01:52 PM
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And yet you accept the legal decision and exonerate the system that proclaimed that Wilson shot and killed Brown in self defense! Wow.
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Read this entire article and then try to convince me that a preponderance of evidence supported an indictment.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/invest...ff8_story.html
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12-22-2014, 01:53 PM
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Innocent until proven guilty (which he wasn't).
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12-22-2014, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by finnbow
I never once have contended that police brutality isn't a problem/issue. However, from the beginning I have said that the use of the Michael Brown case to make this point is probably counterproductive (i.e., Wilson's innocence provides an easy way for those who don't believe in police brutality to dismiss it out of hand.)
As usual, you missed my point.
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...... was never established.
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