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Old 07-13-2014, 08:15 AM
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think about it Einstein:

If Obama gets what he wants it is a political victory for him as well as easing the humanitarian crisis.

If he doesn't get it the bill then Boehner and the Baggers just dig themselves deeper into the pit they have dug for themselves: would rather play politics than put the nation first plus the negative impact on the Latino perception of the GOP will help the Democrats in the future.

Obama may not win in this game but the Democrats will certainly not lose.
Thanks for confirming that Obama is playing politics at the expense of children and the integrity of the country's borders.
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Old 07-13-2014, 09:12 AM
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Thanks for confirming that Obama is playing politics at the expense of children and the integrity of the country's borders.
Really is that the way you see it, not that it surprises me.

He is faced with overloaded courts, and be aware the children do not get court appointed lawyers. This imposes an extra load on the judges who not only must live up to the letter of the law but its spirit as well.

He can hardly clear the backlog let alone the new arrivals without more jurists. By law he has no choice but to provide a hearing to every child. He also must see that they are not only housed but are not molested while in his charge.

I would have to be an extreme skeptic to call the situation playing politics, or simply biased in the extreme.
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Old 07-13-2014, 09:32 AM
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Thanks for confirming that Obama is playing politics at the expense of children and the integrity of the country's borders.
Like you really care about the children.
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Old 07-13-2014, 10:13 AM
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Really is that the way you see it, not that it surprises me.
Well, that's what he said. If that's not what he meant, then maybe he needs to explain yourself.
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Like you really care about the children.
Pfft. Like you have anything other than Obama's political fortunes in mind.
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Old 07-13-2014, 10:18 AM
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Like you really care about the children.
These guy's idea of a solution is 'seal the border.' The kids can break their necks, as long as they fall on the outside of the fence....
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Old 07-13-2014, 11:15 AM
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New York Times: 'The besieged border is a myth'

The border crisis is a "humanitarian tragedy," not an existential threat, writes The New York Times editorial board. In a strongly-worded weekend editorial, the Times accuses Republicans of "throwing up roadblocks" to a possible solution, and of using the crisis to score callous political points.

Republicans are feeding the cycle, stoking panic about a border under assault, even to the point of demanding that Mr. Obama call out the National Guard. Nativist protesters are blocking buses of migrants in places like Murrieta, Calif. Homegrown militias are issuing calls to arms. Illegal border crossings, meanwhile, are still lower than they have been in years. The besieged border is a myth, and the arrival of a few thousand weary refugee children on buses does not make the myth true. [The New York Times]

President Obama last week requested $3.7 billion in emergency funds to address the surge of young Central American migrants along the Mexican border. Yet despite the GOP's demands that the president address the issue, the top House Republican in charge of federal spending, Rep. Hal Rogers (R-Ky.), suggested on Friday the party would not approve the request because it was "too much" money.
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Old 07-13-2014, 11:20 AM
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Well, that's what he said. If that's not what he meant, then maybe he needs to explain yourself.
Not quite, this is what he said;

"If Obama gets what he wants it is a political victory for him as well as easing the humanitarian crisis."

In effect if Obama gets the 3.7 billion then the political fallout will be a victory, he did not say that what Obama was seeking was a political victory.

Churchill was right "Two friendly peoples separated by a common language."

I really should wear sunglasses when outdoors. I just replaced the numbers on our mailbox and I can just about see in here.
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Old 07-13-2014, 11:31 AM
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Not quite, this is what he said;

"If Obama gets what he wants it is a political victory for him as well as easing the humanitarian crisis."
Yeah, that IS what he said.
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Old 07-13-2014, 12:10 PM
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So you are determined to prevent Obama's political victory, even at the cost of failing to respond to the humanitarian crisis? The hate is strong in you!
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