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11-02-2012, 08:20 AM
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No Marx = no Stalin, no Mao, etc, even if they didn't adhere to Marx's theories he got them there.
It's the belief that one knows better than the other, enough to justify force, imo.
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11-02-2012, 08:28 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak
Wasn't it Mao that said;
"If you want to destroy a capitalist, appeal to his greed. Then sit back and watch as he destroys himself."
I'm not a big fan of Mao by any measure. But, if you think about what is going on.......................
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And wasnt it Lenin who said when it comes time to hang the capitalists, they will sell us the rope? You folks have had great deals on rope for the past few decades.
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11-02-2012, 08:32 AM
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Really? So just who did Marx destroy? Stalin killed a lot of people but he was no Marxist, just a plain old fashioned tyrant.
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Kind of guy who would declare wars on countries that were of no threat to him, while using the government apparatus to spy on people and deprive them of their rights. All in the name of the greater good!
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11-02-2012, 08:34 AM
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No Marx = no Stalin, no Mao, etc, even if they didn't adhere to Marx's theories he got them there.
It's the belief that one knows better than the other, enough to justify force, imo.
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Sounds like a good Republican!
We know what is better for the people of Iraq and Afghanistan. And we are willing to use all the force we need to show them that they are wrong!
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11-02-2012, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by piece-itpete
No Marx = no Stalin, no Mao, etc, even if they didn't adhere to Marx's theories he got them there.
It's the belief that one knows better than the other, enough to justify force, imo.
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The Russian revolution had more to do with Rasputin than Marx, it was just a convenient name to hang their hats on.
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11-02-2012, 08:44 AM
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Kind of guy who would declare wars on countries that were of no threat to him, while using the government apparatus to spy on people and deprive them of their rights. All in the name of the greater good!
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Sounds bloody familiar.
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11-02-2012, 08:55 AM
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Yes Erik, the US = Lenin
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11-02-2012, 08:56 AM
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Yes Erik, the US = Lenin
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Of course not. But I hear a lot of the same refrain...
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11-02-2012, 09:18 AM
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No Marx = no Stalin, no Mao, etc, even if they didn't adhere to Marx's theories he got them there.
It's the belief that one knows better than the other, enough to justify force, imo.
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Tyranny needs no ideology.
John
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11-02-2012, 09:24 AM
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I kinda agree, but it does need something to snow the masses. Perhaps, tyranny needs any ideology?
I do notice some get irritated when I mention there's a straight line from Marx to some of the most successful killers in history
Pete
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