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11-16-2024, 07:14 PM
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Democratic Party Reflects?
Some like Rahm Emmanuel as the new DNC leader. (grin)
Apparently the Squad aren't enthusiastic about that idea... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d778acca&ei=90
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11-16-2024, 11:08 PM
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Nice! Nice! AOC is on the ball.
She is not waiting for things to set.
I had a good laugh...fish heads in the mail.
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11-17-2024, 09:13 AM
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One thing I think the Democrat party did wrong was they let the Republicans define who they are. Once you let others define you, you're like Sisyphus and that stone just keeps getting heavier and the hill keeps getting steeper..
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11-17-2024, 11:53 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RickeyM
One thing I think the Democrat party did wrong was they let the Republicans define who they are. Once you let others define you, you're like Sisyphus and that stone just keeps getting heavier and the hill keeps getting steeper..
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Most certainly and more importantly (imo) what they are.
Look at the way Trump and the Trumplicans lambasted Biden and his administration and Biden's best no response was a Jackie Gleason imitation.
The last three who lost, Gore, HRC and Harris could not convince a group of KG kids that Big Bird is their friend.
Simply put, the Democrats have no messaging at all and why they did well during Clinton and Obama administrations, these two were terrific orators and did their own messaging. The entire DNC brain trust needs to resign en masse.
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11-17-2024, 12:08 PM
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Here is a very good column.
Donald Trump Is Already Starting to Fail
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With Trump, the dynamic is different. He’s so consumed with his grievances and his base’s grievances that rather than there being a tug of war between activists and pragmatists for the politician’s attention, the activists and the politician are both aligned against the pragmatists.
That was the clear direction of Trump’s first term. At first he surrounded himself with serious people. Think of the contrast, for example, between Jim Mattis as secretary of defense and Pete Hegseth, or between Alex Azar, the secretary of health and human services for most of Trump’s first term, and an anti-vax conspiracy theorist like Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
But the serious people told him no. They tried to block his worst instincts. So they were purged.
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https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/17/o...z-hegseth.html
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The issue today is the same as it has been throughout all history, whether man shall be allowed to govern himself or be ruled by a small elite. Thomas Jefferson
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11-17-2024, 05:00 PM
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An article designed to push early the failure mantra.
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11-21-2024, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Rajoo
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And, the denial continues.
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11-21-2024, 08:24 AM
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“Many voters headed to the polls convinced that border crossings are higher than ever before (they are not), violent crime rates are rising (untrue) and inflation is soaring (ditto). We will never know how much this garbage may have swayed voters…”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/20/o...ial-media.html
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11-21-2024, 08:46 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by finnbow
“Many voters headed to the polls convinced that border crossings are higher than ever before (they are not), violent crime rates are rising (untrue) and inflation is soaring (ditto). We will never know how much this garbage may have swayed voters…”
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/20/o...ial-media.html
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It is starting to sink in with me how post-truth we are, and what that means.
So the voters either 1) buy the garbage, or 2) see smart people as all liars and chiselers, so they vote for the dumb guy, or 3) both.
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11-21-2024, 09:07 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by donquixote99
It is starting to sink in with me how post-truth we are, and what that means.
So the voters either 1) buy the garbage, or 2) see smart people as all liars and chiselers, so they vote for the dumb guy, or 3) both.
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What is disturbing is that you think the New York Times is the truth.
Old saying, figures don't lie but liars figure.
Major cities quit reporting crimes to the FBI data base. So, who knows what the crime numbers are.
People believe what they want to believe, that is their truth.
You think you are immune to it ?
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