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bobabode 11-16-2024 07:14 PM

Democratic Party Reflects?
 
Some like Rahm Emmanuel as the new DNC leader. (grin)
Apparently the Squad aren't enthusiastic about that idea... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...d778acca&ei=90

Dondilion 11-16-2024 11:08 PM

Nice! Nice! AOC is on the ball.

She is not waiting for things to set.

I had a good laugh...fish heads in the mail.

RickeyM 11-17-2024 09:13 AM

One thing I think the Democrat party did wrong was they let the Republicans define who they are. Once you let others define you, you're like Sisyphus and that stone just keeps getting heavier and the hill keeps getting steeper..

Rajoo 11-17-2024 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by RickeyM (Post 432892)
One thing I think the Democrat party did wrong was they let the Republicans define who they are. Once you let others define you, you're like Sisyphus and that stone just keeps getting heavier and the hill keeps getting steeper..

Most certainly and more importantly (imo) what they are.

Look at the way Trump and the Trumplicans lambasted Biden and his administration and Biden's best no response was a Jackie Gleason imitation.

The last three who lost, Gore, HRC and Harris could not convince a group of KG kids that Big Bird is their friend.

Simply put, the Democrats have no messaging at all and why they did well during Clinton and Obama administrations, these two were terrific orators and did their own messaging. The entire DNC brain trust needs to resign en masse.

Rajoo 11-17-2024 12:08 PM

Here is a very good column.

Donald Trump Is Already Starting to Fail

Quote:

With Trump, the dynamic is different. He’s so consumed with his grievances and his base’s grievances that rather than there being a tug of war between activists and pragmatists for the politician’s attention, the activists and the politician are both aligned against the pragmatists.

That was the clear direction of Trump’s first term. At first he surrounded himself with serious people. Think of the contrast, for example, between Jim Mattis as secretary of defense and Pete Hegseth, or between Alex Azar, the secretary of health and human services for most of Trump’s first term, and an anti-vax conspiracy theorist like Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

But the serious people told him no. They tried to block his worst instincts. So they were purged.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/17/o...z-hegseth.html

Dondilion 11-17-2024 05:00 PM

An article designed to push early the failure mantra.

Oerets 11-17-2024 05:16 PM

I see the issue with the Democrats being an old one. Where a uncomfortable truth with sacrifices no matter how much is the needed to be believed. Will lesson it being undertaken.
A lie that contradicts told long enough by many will be accepted as the gospel truth. Until to late it seems again and again throughout human history.
Again tearing down an idea is always easier then building one up.

ZeroJunk 11-21-2024 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo (Post 432899)
Here is a very good column.

Donald Trump Is Already Starting to Fail



https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/17/o...z-hegseth.html

And, the denial continues.

finnbow 11-21-2024 08:24 AM

“Many voters headed to the polls convinced that border crossings are higher than ever before (they are not), violent crime rates are rising (untrue) and inflation is soaring (ditto). We will never know how much this garbage may have swayed voters…”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/20/o...ial-media.html

donquixote99 11-21-2024 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 433009)
“Many voters headed to the polls convinced that border crossings are higher than ever before (they are not), violent crime rates are rising (untrue) and inflation is soaring (ditto). We will never know how much this garbage may have swayed voters…”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/11/20/o...ial-media.html

It is starting to sink in with me how post-truth we are, and what that means.

So the voters either 1) buy the garbage, or 2) see smart people as all liars and chiselers, so they vote for the dumb guy, or 3) both.


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