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Old 02-21-2011, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Combwork View Post
Same thing happens in the UK. To avoid public anger over high bonus payments, senior managers can by laid off them hired back with a different title at a higher pay rate, usually the equivalent of their old basic rate with the bonus added in monthly installments. Clever. A wage rise that isn't seen to be a wage rise.
And the thing that gets me, that no one's asking - what's their retirement age? It'll take a miracle for me to retire in my 60s, if at all.

Anyone know the minimum retirement requirements for the Wisconsin crowd?

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You hit that nail on the head Blue. As the court said in Hanover Federation of Teachers v. Hanover Community School Corp., 457 F.2d 456 (7th Cir. 1972)



The state of Wisconsin has also spoken of collective bargaining as a right:



So yes, it is fair to say that the governor is attempting to trample on the rights of public employees.

I spoke in an earlier post that, in Missouri, the public body is not required to accept the proposals of a union, and may enact a law that is contrary to the proposals made by the union. It appears that such is the case in Wisconsin too. The governor could get the contributions he and the secretary deem necessary under the law as it stands. This attempt to crush the unions is a completely unnecessary abuse of power.

Regards,

D-Ray
Employees of course can assemble and petition. But, how does that apply to FORCING every employee there to join - and pay? Don't those who don't wish to join have the same freedom the union demands?

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I'm sure it's the same reasoning.

And as detestable as I find having employers handle taxes for the government, I realize that it would be impossible for them to control the great unwashed. But union dues???

To tell the truth, I'd like for everyone to be paid 100% of their salary and then submit payment to the government with their own devices.

Not only would this be a real eye opener for the vast majority of Americans, but the vast majority of politicians as well.

I'll tell you one thing, this for sure would result in change you can believe in. If nothing else, it would raise the percentage of likely voters by a considerable amount.

Let everyone experience the boot on the neck, why should employers have all of the fun?

Chas
100% agreed.

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Good idea. Let's start by firing legislators who don't show up for work.
BAM!

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