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Old 03-16-2016, 01:45 PM
Ike Bana Ike Bana is offline
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"Dream" was the Prince of Denmark. MacDuff was challenged to "lay on".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJIpp2Jj8AQ
Fuck off. "Dream on" has been a play on words of Shakespeare's "Lay on" almost since Shakepear's corpse went in the dirt.

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Of all the candidates, with the possible exception of Trump, I do think Bernie is most likely to generate a movement. I think his followers, perhaps unwisely, trust him totally and implicitly to do exactly what he says and trust that the results will be to their benefit. This is the sort of canddidacy which sweeps people along with it down-ticket.

On the other hand, I doubt there are many people who really trust Hillary. She's been on too many sides of too many issues and the Right Wing smear campaigns going back a quarter century. A lot of voters alive today have no idea as to the facts of the dozen or so "-gates" during the Clinton years. They just know that Hillary keeps getting hammered with them from all sides. There must be something to all that, right?

So, even people prepared to vote for her will do so mostly because they (like you) don't think Bernie can deliver on his promises. And gender doesn't help her either. Some polls show Bernie as having majority support among women, particularly young women.

Unlike Bernie, Hillary isn't "loved" by very many people or even entirely trusted. You can't generate a movement around a candidate like her.
The only movement Bernie is likely to generate will be driven by Ex-lax.

There are just as many people in this country who will never vote for a rumpled Jew soci@list who was never able to support himself with an actual job until he got a job in government, as there are soci@lists in the electorate ready to launch any "movement" in Bernie's name.

Hillary's been on differing sides of too many issues? What idiotic bullshit. Pointing the gnarly flip-flop finger is utter bullshit. I appreciate anybody willing to change their course when they find out they've been on the wrong side of an issue or the wrong course in their management.

So Hillary is not to be trusted? And when she's the candidate, which of your trusted Repubicans is getting your vote? Bernie is dead meat. And you fucking people continue to take potshots at Hillary Clinton for being no different from Barack Obama...the most prolific practitioner of the campaign bait and switch in the political history of the country. We have an opportunity to have the Supreme Court we have been pleading for since Nixon. And you'd just as well fuck it up.

Staying home on November 8th then, john? Just to spite everybody else for leaving you with Hillary Clinton as your choice? Ah...who fucking cares what you do or what you think. Hillary Clinton will annihilate Donald Trump or Ted Cruz. And you be sitting at home with your flaccid pecker in your hand wondering what happened.

And who says I wouldn't vote for Bernie if he's the candidate whether I think he can give everybody health care, give everybody's kid a college degree, give every low income worker 20 bucks an hour, trim the number of active Naval carrier groups from 11 to 2, send a couple dozen bankster theives to prison, and get the Koch brothers to pay for it all. I'll vote for Bernie if he's the candidate. Because we'll get the SCOTUS justices we want from Bernie, just like we will from Hillary.

What I don't like about Bernie is that he's a panderer. You think it takes any integrity for a politician to stand up in front of the people and tell them he's going to give them everything and make somebody else pay for it? It's as bad a Cruz continuing to tell people, like he told his ignoramus constituents that he will repeal Obamacare when he knows he can't. But that's Bernie...he's a smart guy, he knows what America is made up of...people who want what they want, who want it right now, and who want somebody else to pay for it. Keep it up, Bernie...you've already proven to me your no different from any other lying ass politician.

Last edited by Ike Bana; 03-16-2016 at 01:48 PM.
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