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Old 07-16-2013, 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueStreak View Post
Ummmmmm............I'd say that just because one can move up, or in some cases down, from one class to the next does not mean we are a "classless society". I do believe this is one of the greatest illusions of the American society. Class warfare does indeed exist, here in America and the belief that it does not, is the reason so many are losing the fight and slipping into working poverty.

They will cook you a hotdog, smile in your face and tell you "...we're all in the same boat." at the company picnic. But, just let them catch you in the executive bathroom and watch what happens.

Now, if you are saying we are a country that has no class........one trip to WalMart is your point made.

Dave
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Our Founding Fathers deliberately punted on the issue of slavery. As you said, this long-brewing and unresolved issue ultimately led to the second bloodiest war in our history (and it was self-inflicted).
I've mentioned I think it actually brought the experiment to failure as the issue ended up giving the feds almost unlimited power by and by.

The writer in question is extremely narrowminded either accidentally or by design. He does say 'In these senses' so I suspect the latter. He also basically ignores massive changes in both society and structure since then - our government would be practically unrecognizable to the Founders.

As far as being a model for other countries, not many places can survive the level of free speech we have here

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