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Rajoo 06-25-2014 12:43 PM

Cannot Impeach? Sue Obama?
 
Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

I have no idea where this is going or if it is even possible. I thought the POTUS is immune from certain lawsuits and can only be impeached. Or is this an act of desperation due to OSD.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014...ecutive-power/

finnbow 06-25-2014 12:44 PM

It'll fall flat on its ass. Just a way of the establishment to appease the 'Baggers after kicking their asses in the recent primaries.

Rajoo 06-25-2014 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 227126)
It'll fall flat on its ass. Just a way of the establishment to appease the 'Baggers after kicking their asses in the recent primaries.

Good point. See if Boehner actually does file a lawsuit or just blowing smoke.

bobabode 06-25-2014 12:52 PM

Yep. Gotta agree with Ms. Pelosi.
"I make of it as subterfuge," she said. "They're doing nothing here. So they have to give some aura of activity."
Pelosi said the Republican caucus needs an "adult in that room." WaPo;)

piece-itpete 06-25-2014 12:56 PM

May we live in interesting times.

Pete

BlueStreak 06-25-2014 01:03 PM

First he has to prove there was abuse and that the President and C-in-C has had no authority to use the executive order.

Good luck.

Dave

donquixote99 06-25-2014 01:17 PM

No, first he has to prove he has standing to sue that defendant in that court for that reason. This won't make it out the gate. The Constitution provides the impeachment remedy and no other, and suits like this are routinely dismissed.

BlueStreak 06-25-2014 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by donquixote99 (Post 227144)
No, first he has to prove he has standing to sue that defendant in that court for that reason. This won't make it out the gate. The Constitution provides the impeachment remedy and no other, and suits like this are routinely dismissed.

True. And the rightwing propaganda machine will use said dismissal as evidence of "liberal, pro-Obama bias" in the courts.

Dave

finnbow 06-25-2014 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 227155)
True. And the rightwing propaganda machine will use said dismissal as evidence of "liberal, pro-Obama bias" in the courts.

Dave

And their recently scorned base will eat it up with a spoon.

piece-itpete 06-25-2014 01:41 PM

Increasing fundraising and voter turnout ;)

Pete

finnbow 06-25-2014 01:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 227158)
Increasing fundraising and voter turnout ;)

Pete

Can a rabid dog become more rabid?

Rajoo 06-25-2014 01:45 PM

I just read that the Congress can revoke a Presidential Executive Order by passing a bill by a veto proof majority. Good luck with that. So no wonder Ms. Pelosi said what she said. Childish behavior from certain mature adults.

piece-itpete 06-25-2014 01:47 PM

Hmmm Finn, I don't think so. One can beat another in a fight though.

We should be thanking Obama. He's made it much easier for the next Imperial Republican President ;)

Pete

bobabode 06-25-2014 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 227166)
Hmmm Finn, I don't think so. One can beat another in a fight though.

We should be thanking Obama. He's made it much easier for the next Imperial Republican President ;)

Pete

That would be the work of the Gee Dubya and his merry band of neo convicts that paved the way. ;)

Rajoo 06-25-2014 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by piece-itpete (Post 227166)
Hmmm Finn, I don't think so. One can beat another in a fight though.

We should be thanking Obama. He's made it much easier for the next Imperial Republican President ;)

Pete

Presenting Queen Hillary. :D

https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/i...Mq60kA_qAyYVoj

EDIT: Picture will be photoshopped before her coronation.

finnbow 06-25-2014 02:01 PM

It's funny how the GOP is now complaining about Obama issuing "signing statements" and then acting upon them after Dubya easily smashed the record for doing so. Dubya issued 161 signing statements affecting over 1,100 provisions of law in 160 Congressional enactments. In comparison, from his inauguration through April 18, 2014, President Obama has issued 27 signing statements affecting 97 specified provisions.

http://www.coherentbabble.com/faqs.htm

icenine 06-25-2014 02:09 PM

W was white, and the realization that it may become an impossibility to ever elect another Republican president is starting to dawn on Boehner and the others. There is not one viable candidate for 2016 except for Bush. And he may be too moderate to nominate.

piece-itpete 06-25-2014 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 227172)

EDIT: Picture will be photoshopped before her coronation.

LMAO!!

Pete

bobabode 06-25-2014 02:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 227173)
It's funny how the GOP is now complaining about Obama issuing "signing statements" and then acting upon them after Dubya easily smashed the record for doing so. Dubya issued 161 signing statements affecting over 1,100 provisions of law in 160 Congressional enactments. In comparison, from his inauguration through April 18, 2014, President Obama has issued 27 signing statements affecting 97 specified provisions.

http://www.coherentbabble.com/faqs.htm

I was reading one of George Will's flights of fancy recently where he was calling for judicial action to curb Obama's excesses. It brought up a mental image of Will happily sawing off one of the legs on the proverbial three legged milking stool.
It's like these merry bands of neocons had electro shock therapy in November '08 which wiped their memory.

Rajoo 06-25-2014 02:30 PM

Proposed text for a post by negative five: :D

"It's only a matter of time before Pelosi, Reid and Obama shut down the internet in the name of controlling "free speech"

I cribbed it from here: :)
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-T...lawsuit-Threat

JJIII 06-26-2014 06:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 227161)
Can a rabid dog become more rabid?

Only in Washington.

merrylander 06-26-2014 06:26 AM

Adult in the caucus - Ha!

According to Webster's adult - a meaning one and dolt meaning a dull fellow so I guess with Bonehead they have it made.

Pio1980 06-26-2014 07:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 227188)
Proposed text for a post by negative five: :D

"It's only a matter of time before Pelosi, Reid and Obama shut down the internet in the name of controlling "free speech"

I cribbed it from here: :)
http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-T...lawsuit-Threat

What? Blightfart, not Alex Jones? Mebbe Jerome Corsi can produce another bound bundle of asswipe for Alex on this.

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Ike Bana 06-26-2014 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 227173)
It's funny how the GOP is now complaining about Obama issuing "signing statements" and then acting upon them after Dubya easily smashed the record for doing so. Dubya issued 161 signing statements affecting over 1,100 provisions of law in 160 Congressional enactments. In comparison, from his inauguration through April 18, 2014, President Obama has issued 27 signing statements affecting 97 specified provisions.

http://www.coherentbabble.com/faqs.htm

Bush generated more signing statements than all previous residents of the Oval Office, combined. The honor of the development of the concept of the Imperial Presidency is all Bush's (well OK, all Cheney's, since it was all Bush could accomplish to sit up and feed himself three times a day).

Oerets 06-26-2014 07:50 AM

I thought the Right were against Frivolous Lawsuits?




Barney

4-2-7 06-26-2014 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 227164)
I just read that the Congress can revoke a Presidential Executive Order by passing a bill by a veto proof majority. Good luck with that. So no wonder Ms. Pelosi said what she said. Childish behavior from certain mature adults.

You should go read that an executive order can just be tosed in the trash with the next President.

finnbow 06-26-2014 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 227319)
You should go read that an executive order can just be tosed in the trash with the next President.

Maybe that's what the GOP is pissed about. Due to demographics, they may not be able to elect a President in the foreseeable future.

4-2-7 06-26-2014 08:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 227320)
Maybe that's what the GOP is pissed about. Due to demographics, they may not be able to elect a President in the foreseeable future.

You are living in a fantasy world if you think this country will vote in another Dem for President in 2016.

bobabode 06-26-2014 08:45 AM

What do you base that prediction on -5? Divining chicken entrails?

finnbow 06-26-2014 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 227321)
You are living in a fantasy world if you think this country will vote in another Dem for President in 2016.

You're living in a fantasy world if you think today's GOP will appeal to blacks, Hispanics, gays, youth, women ... In politics, demographics is destiny.

donquixote99 06-26-2014 09:00 AM

You're in the minority, 4-2-7. Get used to it.

Tom Joad 06-26-2014 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 227125)
Boehner plans to file suit against Obama over alleged abuse of executive power

I have no idea where this is going or if it is even possible. I thought the POTUS is immune from certain lawsuits and can only be impeached. Or is this an act of desperation due to OSD.

But there's a BLACK MAN in the White House!

Something has to be done about that!

icenine 06-26-2014 09:25 AM

I see it like this:

Boehner wants to sue Obama for not enforcing laws but at the same time his party has refused to work with the President and shut down the government.


Besides actual law enforcement is one of the checks and balances. No executive enforces all laws.

4-2-7 06-26-2014 10:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 227324)
You're living in a fantasy world if you think today's GOP will appeal to blacks, Hispanics, gays, youth, women ... In politics, demographics is destiny.

When was the last time an incumbent party regained the White House after 8 years? Let alone after this president failed policies and failed to get us out of this depression.

Oerets 06-26-2014 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 227334)
When was the last time an incumbent party regained the White House after 8 years? Let alone after this president failed policies and failed to get us out of this depression.

Reagan Bush

Would of been Clinton Gore if not for some hanging chads, you know the old saying,

""It's not the people who vote that count, it's the people who count the votes.""


Joseph Stalin


Barney

Ike Bana 06-26-2014 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 227321)
You are living in a fantasy world if you think this country will vote in another Dem for President in 2016.

I think you mean a woman or another Negro Dem.

The GOP has won a single popular Presidential vote since 1992, 5 below. And it didn't much matter who was running against who, or how the previous occupant behaved. Even a hero of yours like Limbaugh was so distraught after the '98 vote that he came out and admitted that the country has changed. He's too stupid to suggest that his side needs to do something besides change the GOP to the TeaBag Party...but even he knows it's a new game.

Ike Bana 06-26-2014 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 227334)
When was the last time an incumbent party regained the White House after 8 years? Let alone after this president failed policies and failed to get us out of this depression.

We were never in a depression you idiot.

Rajoo 06-26-2014 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 227319)
You should go read that an executive order can just be tosed in the trash with the next President.

As usual this post makes no sense but that's not the point is it? Just post count?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 227321)
You are living in a fantasy world if you think this country will vote in another Dem for President in 2016.

You have the credibility of a dripping faucet yet venture to challenge a respected member's opinion?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 227334)
When was the last time an incumbent party regained the White House after 8 years? Let alone after this president failed policies and failed to get us out of this depression.

You never answer yet throw questions out here. WTF you moran. Why don't you look it up yourself. Here let me try and help.

Launch Google and they type "consecutive US presidents from the same party since year 19xx" and see what you get. Note that you will need to enter numbers in 19xx. Google is not that smart. Come back and post "Barney, you are right" :rolleyes:

Rajoo 06-26-2014 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4-2-7 (Post 227334)
When was the last time an incumbent party regained the White House after 8 years? Let alone after this president failed policies and failed to get us out of this depression.

There you go again challenging Finn. You should be watching cartoons and not foray into adult conversations. ;)

finnbow 06-26-2014 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BeamOn (Post 227343)
There you go again challenging Finn. You should be watching cartoons and not foray into adult conversations. ;)

And to think that I took him off my ignore list to answer his idiotic drivel. He's back on ignore.


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