California Crazies....
 

..are at it again. http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...621-story.html

"Advocates of splitting California into six states gathering signatures." LATimes

Sounds like the venture capitalist Tim Draper who's behind this knuckleheaded idea needs a tax write-off. :rolleyes:

Little do they realize the funding needed. The State of Jefferson would instantly become one of the poorest.



Barney

Saw this about a month ago on t.v..

And, you're absolutely right, (his) taxes are what it's all about. He said he doesn't see why his taxes should pay for anyones education out side of the schools his kids and the kids in his community attend.

Typical dumbass rich guy doesn't get what the purpose of a "public" school system is in the first place. It's not about his well heeled offspring, it's about the children of people who cannot afford to pay. But, in this day and age that concept is lost on spoiled, myopic and hopelessly selfish punks like him. "Why should my taxes pay for anyone else?" Hmmmmm..... Maybe we should ask him why we continue to allow him and his little brats to suck air?:p

Dave

Good, let the fucker starve the public school system so that those "other" kids can't get a decent education.

Then maybe they will join gangs instead and pop a cap in his ass when they mug him.

Karma's a biatch doncha know?

Prime example of Libertarianism. No thanx!

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That what gets me. Parents who complain about public schools, send their little ones to private. Think they are doing so much better for their kids.

But their kids are only around other kids of similar backgrounds.

Then the parents want their tax dollars to go to the private schools as a voucher. When it was their choice and knew from the git what they were doing!


I have often wondered, these parents since writing a check to the private school then feel the need to be more involved with the children's education. Make sure the homework is done, study for tests. Get to bed on time watch less TV, computer, phone ect.....

Where public schooling is seen as an lesser because the taxes are less apparent expenditure some how.




Barney

Not that this is going anywhere but can you imagine the unintended consequences? Six California's would mean at least 8 or 10 more progressive liberals of the Democratic persuasion in the U.S. Senate. ;)

Hmmm, where do I sign up? :cool:

When your head is buried in the Conservatopian world wherein all needs are met by benevolent deities and the mystical hand of market forces who favor only the greediest and most socially apathetic among us because they think slow and the weak deserve to perish.............

It's easy to lose sight of the fact that there are consequences to being an asshole.

Some like to blame the little guys, because they once tried to band together and make their work pay. They had all kinds of unacceptable notions of sending their kids to college, actually being able to enjoy their retirement years and not having to reduce themselves to butt kissing toadies to survive. Personally, I don't blame them at all for that. Being the bosses underpaid bitch is a bullshit way to live. In fact I understand their point with perfect clarity and resolute concurrence.

Nope, I blame the people who are so damned self absorbed that the only thing that matters to them at all is their own offshore bank accounts and the materialistic approval of their Armani wearing yuppie flunky suck up friends. Those are the Jackals that have abandoned once great American industrial cities in the name of one upping the rest of the country club whoremasters.

The only thing wrong with the world today, is that it has been far too long since we Great Unwashed have dragged them out of their palaces, through the gates and shoved their fat heads into the guillotine.

:p;):)

Dave

Oh gee Barney that's very smart of you to come to that conclusion. Just one very small thing I should bring up. Have you ever heard of Water Rights? How about geography?

Come on now Barney still twitching from vitamin A. look at a map it may help you grasp what you just stated as ignorant. Can you grasp it now and see that dump of wasteland where Bobby lives? The truth is that part of California only exists because of support from northern and central Cal. Hell we could even give Mexico the bottom third of the state back. :rolleyes: You can't make movies if you can't sustain life. ;)


http://www.capradio.org/media/700535/water-map.png

Sorry dumbass. You really should consider completing high school before you open your trap and speak about subjects that you haven't the slightest clue about. We are self sufficient down here in Costa Mesa. Meanwhile your sorry ass of a town gets most of your water from the Hetch Hetchey over in the Sierra Nevada. Ignorant, indeed. :rolleyes:

One other point for you Dan, SoCal has all the water rights we need for now. It's called having an overwhelming majority of voters and representatives in the statehouse in Sacramento. You really have some grande huevos calling anyone ignorant other than yourself. Do some research for once before talking out of your ass. :rolleyes:

Water rights, my ass.

It's the demographics. I suspect the boundaries of at least 2 or 3 of these new states would look like an Illinois Congressional district after the white folks managed to get as many black folks into one "state" as possible, and as many Latino folks into another. Or if not ethnic demographics, then financial demographics, rich folks in one (sorta like a terra-based "Elysium"), and poor folks in the other 5.

Here's a model...Illinois 4.

https://yy2.staticflickr.com/3627/34...b03504e7f1.jpg

We have a bunch of crazy GOPers that want to split up Maryland and make a new state out of the Western half, which of course would have no tax base.

Just how much of Norther California is under Federal ownership, you know everyone in the US? So water would be a Federal one maybe. Big govmint stepping in and wanting tax dollars is what this all about. What would the state of jefferson expect the next time a fire, flood or eruption occurs? Just a big outstretched hand wanting money fast!





Barney

After this post, it is an excellent time for you to become a missing person. :mad:

That is total insanity. How in the world did we ever get to this? (He asked rhetorically.)

Yep I drink it every day, and if the state was dived up what ever state Hetch Hetchey falls in would earn money from it.

Sacramento would not exist Bobby in a hypothetical division of the state. Each state would have their own governance so you can wipe your ass with this post.

SoCal is a desert and the only reason it has the population it does is because of water from NorCal. Got it.

Like I said we should just give it back to Mexico it's wasteland.

Good point I'm burnt out with the fires from people that want to live in a wasteland desert and exspect everyone to put them out.

Barney where do 99.9% of wild fire happen in Cal?

At the end of day it will never happen. Just like Texas Alaska wanting to secede. Nothing there but hot air and hate.

In what universe will this ever be allowed to happen? Just a way for a group to get together and grip about ""others"" taking from them. One would be just fooling themselves into thinking an area with less votes then one county in another part of the state could ever win. No state will give up water rights already owned fool!

Keep eatin your pepperoni hot pockets and drinking your Yoo'hoo's typing typing away. Waste another day showing your hate for another who have the gall to ""question you!!""

At least open a window shade. Look outside a big wide world outside to experience.

Dude you need to relax some.



Me I'm going to get out and enjoy the beautiful day. See the Grandsons and tickle the wife later.


Barney

Indeed and well put Barney. This idea splitting the state up has been floated time and again. It has as much of a chance as a snowball in hell of happening.

Me too. I'm on vacation in Phoenix. Spent the other day relaxing here. Am going to go out and take the granddaughter swimming now. It is 8:13am and 90° out. Going home later this evening.

Hope you are enjoying our nice weather while you are here. When I get home from work I'm planning on jumpping into my pool at the house.

From Wiki:
" As of the 2010 U.S. Census, the county has a population of 9,818,605,[5] making it the most populous county in the United States. Los Angeles County alone is more populous than 42 individual U.S. states."

What an f***ing wateland!
Real problem? The county is almost 70% Democratic.

Enjoy the time with the grandkids, they grow up so fast. Not enough hours in the day filled with happiness. Tough to leave most of the time.

They will be spending a couple of days with us this week while their house gets some work done. Had to move stereo gear out of a room last night. Gladly I will say!



Barney

Split it up into 42 states and see what the GOP thinks then! "O" did you feel and hear that? A collective puckering and gasp from the right at that thought!



Barney

Don't care about the population right now, it's a hypithetical look "IF"

As such look at the fucking California History all you dip shits that think you know so much.

No water no Population, gees igiots.

That is almost the population of my two home states together. Oregon and Washington combined total about 10.8 million, and Washington ranks 13th in population. Funny thing is, if you took the single most populous city out of either state it would completely change the state from Democrat to Republican.

WTF are igiots dumbass? :rolleyes:

That's alright. Then they would just seek funding from the Feds. And all in the name of "rugged individualism".:rolleyes:

All of us here are capable of reading and reasonably well read. You are the fucking exception. So why don't you look at your picture books and get lost. :mad:

Change your title from DumbAss to MIA. :mad:

The pictures books started talking back and disagreeing with him too!:D


Must be lonely unhappy world of his. Get help please!

Don't care about populations you say -5? Must not like silly little one man one vote sorta thing. Unless it's the ""right ones"" vote counting only.



Barney

http://www.katzy.dsl.pipex.com/Smileys/WipeButt.gif

But then again you probably would not be able to do it right anyway.

I'm sorry you can't comprehend the need for resources for population growth.

If you have not figured out, I am pissing on you (figuratively) and hopefully that will wash the shit that's in your head. Need to start at the top. :mad:

Classy! http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/ima...s/thumbsup.gif


Carl

Yeah!!! Fucking igiots. And while you're at it...

https://img.4plebs.org/boards/pol/im...7010745570.jpg

Dyslexia strikes deep. Into your spellchecker it will creep.

Now I know where DJ learned to spell Moron. :)

Our resources are telling us we need to manage population growth to a level of sustainability.

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I hate to contemplate this...but it seems to me that in the end, the only thing that will ever be able to correct population growth to a level of sustainability is worldwide pandemic and famine.