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noonereal 10-30-2010 09:12 AM

My mom is voting the republic line
 
My mom is voting the republic line this Tuesday. She is 81 and is not comfortable with someone born in Africa being President.

She wants every teabag candidate in the country to win but would not vote for Sarah Palin if she was running for something right now. "Sarah just does not know enough, yet."(of course she does not know anything about the other leaders of the teabag set)

I guess this is a perfect example of mass psychology in action and Fox has succeeded.
:(


Sorry guys, I am pretty down on the human species.

JJIII 10-30-2010 09:21 AM

That must be a pretty hard pill for you to swallow. Is it possible that with her life experience she thinks the Dems don't have the right ideas?

Combwork 10-30-2010 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 42906)
My mom is voting the republic line this Tuesday. She is 81 and is not comfortable with someone born in Africa being President.

She wants every teabag candidate in the country to win but would not vote for Sarah Palin if she was running for something right now. "Sarah just does not know enough, yet."(of course she does not know anything about the other leaders of the teabag set)

I guess this is a perfect example of mass psychology in action and Fox has succeeded.
:(


Sorry guys, I am pretty down on the human species.


My mom is voting the republic line this Tuesday. She is 81 and is not comfortable with someone born in Africa being President.


Interesting timing. Your mom would have been in her late teens when WW2 ended. During the war for the most part, blacks and whites fought and died alongside each other, watched each others backs. After 1945 things edged back towards the way they were in the 1930's. Your moms formative years would have been slap dab in the middle of this.

I don't know you or your family background, but for the sake of argument, if your mom was brought up in middle class middle America, for the most part she would have been brought up in a culture where what we now see as racial insult would have been perfectly acceptable. "Amos & Andy", that kind of thing. Nobody (except maybe a few radicals in the North) would have seen anything wrong with this, it was normal.

Now you've got a black man as president; highest office in the land. This shakes up a heck of a lot of beliefs and with all due respect to her, at 81, maybe seeing what she was brought up to believe was 'normal' being turned on its head is literally, shocking.

d-ray657 10-30-2010 10:25 AM

Combwork, you put us to shame with your knowledge of US history. (Many Europeans also have a better grasp of the American political scene than do the majority over here.) Right or wrong, that was a very interesting analysis. It was particularly on point, because I recall Noone mentioning that he was a Republican before he saw the light. His life experiences changed his world view. (Don't let me put words in your mouth, Noone. That's what I recall reading, but you can set the record straight if my recollection is faulty.)

My Mom came from the same generation. She was a very loving and accepting person. When I was dating an African American lady in college, she was fine with it except - "I hope you don't get very serious because that would be so difficult." I'm not sure what she would have thought of our president, but our household was very much in line with the Democratic party.

Regards,

D-Ray

merrylander 10-30-2010 11:02 AM

One of the advantages I guess of spending my formative years in Canada and having lived in Quebec until I reached 40 I don't have a problem with the French/English bushwhaa either.

Having been a card carrying member of the Progressive Conservative party (not the one that calls itself conservative now) coming here was quite an education as I saw nowt conservative about the GOP. Even Olympia Snowe, a so called moderat seems more worried about the health insurance companies than her constituents.

As the King said "Tis a puzzlement".

BlueStreak 10-30-2010 03:31 PM

My folks were even older than your Mom when they passed, Mom-84, Dad,-91.
My mother came from a Republican family, but had little use for the Conservative arm of the party much after Barry Goldwater/Nixon era. Neither of my parents had any use for Reagan, but voted for him in '80 because the only thing they thought worse than Reagan was another four years of Jimmy Carter.

Dad told me once in the mid-eighties, "Ultimately these conservative Republicans will try to take things back to the 1920's. Which wasn't all it's cracked up to be. Some people were unbelieveably rich, everyone else was lucky to have a pot to piss in."

He was there, I wasn't. So, I guess i'll take his word for it.

Dave

P.s.
I have no idea what Pop thought of Obama. His personal life was in too much turmoil to care in '08 with my mother ill and dying. But, I do know one thing he truly hated was racism.

noonereal 10-30-2010 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by JJIII (Post 42907)
That must be a pretty hard pill for you to swallow. Is it possible that with her life experience she thinks the Dems don't have the right ideas?

well no. She has dementia and pretty much is motivated by fear these days.

she sees a report on identity thief and can't sleep,
I had to get her a security system during the summer even though every neighbor is family, close family.

Point is she has been scared by the lies Fox has told her about Obama and the Dems. This is exactly what Fox set out to do to people like her.

other than being anti abortion there is not an issue that she agrees with the GOP on. She is voting out of fear. Fear placed there intentionally by Fox, the propaganda machine of the GOP.

she is scared to death of mexicans now. everyone of them is a drug dealer who does not work and uses free healthcare.

it's sad beyond words what Fox/GOP has done to so many of our vulnerable :(

BlueStreak 10-30-2010 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Combwork (Post 42909)

My mom is voting the republic line this Tuesday. She is 81 and is not comfortable with someone born in Africa being President.


Interesting timing. Your mom would have been in her late teens when WW2 ended. During the war for the most part, blacks and whites fought and died alongside each other, watched each others backs. After 1945 things edged back towards the way they were in the 1930's. Your moms formative years would have been slap dab in the middle of this.

I don't know you or your family background, but for the sake of argument, if your mom was brought up in middle class middle America, for the most part she would have been brought up in a culture where what we now see as racial insult would have been perfectly acceptable. "Amos & Andy", that kind of thing. Nobody (except maybe a few radicals in the North) would have seen anything wrong with this, it was normal.

Now you've got a black man as president; highest office in the land. This shakes up a heck of a lot of beliefs and with all due respect to her, at 81, maybe seeing what she was brought up to believe was 'normal' being turned on its head is literally, shocking.

I've heard the view can be much more clear--looking from the outside in. Thank You for confirming this, Kind Sir.

Dave

merrylander 10-31-2010 07:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 42925)
I've heard the view can be much more clear--looking from the outside in. Thank You for confirming this, Kind Sir.

Dave

What of course happens is that the media in other countries tends to spend a good amount of time on world news, so for example the CBC 11 O'Clck news devoted quite a bit of the newscast to what was happening in other world capitals.

Interesting side note, I see that my former employer, Bell Canada, has bought the CTV television network.

finnbow 10-31-2010 08:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueStreak (Post 42925)
I've heard the view can be much more clear--looking from the outside in. Thank You for confirming this, Kind Sir.

Dave

Just a thorough reading of The Economist shows you how lousy Time, Newsweek, etc., are.

merrylander 10-31-2010 08:10 AM

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Originally Posted by finnbow (Post 42943)
Just a thorough reading of The Economist shows you how lousy Time, Newsweek, etc., are.

To show you why, one of the local TV channels begins the newscast with "here is what people are talking about." they are only giving the viewers exactly what the viewer wants.:rolleyes:

JJIII 10-31-2010 10:51 AM

Noon, I'm sorry to hear of your mother's problems. Prayers for the both of you.

BlueStreak 10-31-2010 12:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJIII (Post 42945)
Noon, I'm sorry to hear of your mother's problems. Prayers for the both of you.

+1. My mother had Alzheimers. I know how tough it can be.

Dave

noonereal 10-31-2010 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJIII (Post 42945)
Noon, I'm sorry to hear of your mother's problems. Prayers for the both of you.

thank you JJ

I have had some improvement the last few weeks.

merrylander 11-01-2010 07:50 AM

My best to you and your Mom also, having a brother with Alzhiemer's I know what it can be like.

noonereal 11-01-2010 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by merrylander (Post 42958)
My best to you and your Mom also, having a brother with Alzhiemer's I know what it can be like.

thanks Rob, we are OK right now

Brother_Karl 11-01-2010 10:22 AM

Yeah. The human race sucks.

I dont hold anything against your mother (or anyone else) for voting Republican any more than I would if she voted Democrat but the reasons that people give for voting one way or another can be truly depressing.

I take it that you are voting Democrat? Why so?

noonereal 11-01-2010 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother_Karl (Post 42969)
Yeah. The human race sucks.

I dont hold anything against your mother (or anyone else) for voting Republican any more than I would if she voted Democrat but the reasons that people give for voting one way or another can be truly depressing.

I take it that you are voting Democrat? Why so?

why else?

the lesser of the two evils and at least the Dems support the middle class in theory

painter 11-01-2010 06:31 PM

Momma knows best...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 42906)
My mom is voting the republic line this Tuesday. She is 81 and is not comfortable with someone born in Africa being President.

She wants every teabag candidate in the country to win but would not vote for Sarah Palin if she was running for something right now. "Sarah just does not know enough, yet."(of course she does not know anything about the other leaders of the teabag set)

I guess this is a perfect example of mass psychology in action and Fox has succeeded.
:(


Sorry guys, I am pretty down on the human species.



Your mother evidently has cognitive thinking to be able to ascertain her political views...and everybody has them.

BlueStreak 11-01-2010 08:05 PM

Hi Painter!

Dave

JJIII 11-01-2010 08:58 PM

Hey Painter. How ya been?

painter 11-01-2010 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJIII (Post 43034)
Hey Painter. How ya been?



Hello there!

Doing fine Thanks. Now that summer's gone...time to dust off the old computer.

My best to you all.

noonereal 11-02-2010 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by painter (Post 43017)
Your mother evidently has cognitive thinking to be able to ascertain her political views...and everybody has them.

LOL, I knew you were still "memorizing" my posts!

:D


all the best

no one

painter 11-02-2010 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noonereal (Post 43078)
LOL, I knew you were still "memorizing" my posts!

:D


all the best

no one


Not here to discuss politics...just to give a gentle reminder from time to time...whatever your opinion is on any subject in life...its yours and you have that right.
Enjoy the day!


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