18 and Dead.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by finnbow

It isn't character assassination. In fact, it would be considered admissible evidence in a courtroom.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/v...riminal-trial/

It's just an inconvenient fact for those who want to paint Brown as being pure as the driven snow.

Finn, your descent into sarcasm and mockery here is unlike you, and disturbing.

[piece-itpete]

You never hear him talk about the GOP?

Pete

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Zeke

That's bullshit, as is your constantly evolving (devolving?) story trying to victimize the allegedly criminal assailant.

Do you remember when you were wailing about "thirty-five feet" and "shot in the back while fleeing?" I do.

In addition, the eyewitness testimony -- which I indicated from jump is typically woefully inaccurate -- that you've been using as the pillar for most of your apologism is being summarily negated as evidence is released.

1. The kid was a robber.
2. He felt entitled to his actions.
3. He didn't like being stopped.
4. He caused his own death.

That's what this distills to.

You're way beyond the evidence here. Two and three are beyond any possible evidence. Technology to read the minds of dead people does not exist.

Number 2 is nothing but your own prejudice talking, in the complete and utter absence of data.

Number 4 is opinion that should await more information, and may be a question for a jury.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Finn, your descent into sarcasm and mockery here is unlike you, and disturbing.

I aim to please.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by Zeke

Repeating a failed argument does nothing to make it successful.

You know, saying "an argument is failed" is incredibly easy. Anyone can say that any time.

And some people might confuse such saying with actually demonstrating a fault in the argument, if they also wish the argument to be faulty.....

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

You're way beyond the evidence here. Two and three are beyond any possible evidence. Technology to read the minds of dead people does not exist.

Number 2 is nothing but your own prejudice talking, in the complete and utter absence of data.

Number 4 is opinion that should await more information, and may be a question for a jury.

Bullshit.

What exactly is robbery? That's saying "your stuff should be mine." That's entitlement. If you're a robber, you feel entitled.

As for the other, if you assault an officer then you have caused whatever force response required to end the assault.

As evidence comes out, the alleged choir boy robber looks worse and worse, as expected. An officer doesn't just execute someone in broad daylight.

[donquixote99]

Originally Posted by one1

http://news.msn.com/us/dont-know-if-...-with-hands-up

Does this make a difference now?

No, no difference, because the pathologist has added no new knowledge one way or the other. Here's the first sentence from your link:

A Missouri teenager fatally shot by police suffered a bullet wound to his right arm that may indicate his hands were up or his back was turned to the shooter, but "we don't know," a pathologist hired by the teen's family said Monday.

"We didn't know" is not new, we didn't know before either. We had eyewitness reports that said hands were up, but they may or may not be reliable.

So we're still at 'maybe the hands were up, and maybe they weren't.'

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

You know, saying "an argument is failed" is incredibly easy. Anyone can say that any time.

And some people might confuse such saying with actually demonstrating a fault in the argument, if they also wish the argument to be faulty.....

I don't have to find fault in the ridiculous and apologist arguments defending an alleged robber in this thread, the evidence is doing it for me.

[piece-itpete]

So now, Johnson had to shoot someone, says they were shooting at the police, and one of the protestors say: "They cut us off and they began shooting without warning," Ammi said. "They began shooting into the crowd with women, children, and the peaceful, innocent protesters who were here exercising our constitutional rights."

So in this age of video cell phones, where's the beef?

Pete

[Wasillaguy]

The bad actors want a cop to die, and they won't be happy until that happens. Last night they were making coordinated moves toward attacking the LE command center. They've also been trying to take up positions on rooftops. For these people, revenge is justice, regardless the facts surrounding the shooting.