"Here's How You Get Ebola"

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

My guess is a microdrop in the eye is a theoretically possible route of transmission, but a very unlikely one. None of the people who shared air, bathroom, etc. with Duncan are sick yet (cross fingers....)

Viruses, even if they are languishing in sweat, tears, spit, blood etc., are not particularly hardy once they are no longer inside the body.

There is no one specific time point that the HIV virus survives outside the body. But we can say that the virus will normally live only for several minutes. The more body fluid that there is, the longer the virus will survive outside the body. But normally, within a few minutes, the virus will be dead. The longer the virus is outside the body, the weaker the virus gets, and the less the chance of transmission. As an example, if you take a small drop of blood outside the body, the blood will dry rapidly and the virus will die rapidly. If you have a large quantity of blood outside the body, it will take longer for the blood to dry, and therefore, longer for the virus to die. The virus cannot live in dried blood. Luckily, the virus has evolved to survive only in the specific environment inside the human body. Once you take it out of the human body, it cannot survive. You can think of it another way. Think of a great white shark. In it's normal environment, it is a killing machine. Take that same shark and take it out of the water. The shark will be dead within a very short period of time and become totally harmless. HIV is the same way. In the human body, it is a killing machine. Take it outside of the human body, and it dies rapidly, and becomes totally harmless. If you have further questions regarding this matter, please feel free to contact me again.

Rich Sowadsky, MSPH. Nevada State Health Division AIDS Program.

This pretty much goes for Ebola virus as well although it appears to be a bit more hardy outside the body than HIV. Perhaps several hours on non-porous surfaces, and perhaps a day or two in blood that is outside the body. But you still have to get it into your mouth, or eyes, or an open wound for transmission to occur. Which is probably why we aren't seeing positives for people in Duncan's family.

[JJIII]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Viruses, even if they are languishing in sweat, tears, spit, blood etc., are not particularly hardy once they are no longer inside the body.



This pretty much goes for Ebola virus as well although it appears to be a bit more hardy outside the body than HIV. Perhaps several hours on non-porous surfaces, and perhaps a day or two in blood that is outside the body. But you still have to get it into your mouth, or eyes, or an open wound for transmission to occur. Which is probably why we aren't seeing positives for people in Duncan's family.

Then there is this...

http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/12/health/ebola/index.html

[nailer]

Helicopter has been circling for awhile to the SW of me. Just got off the phone with a friend - Presbyterian Hospital nurse (?) went to the hospital this morning with some symptons and tested positive.

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by nailer

Helicopter has been circling for awhile to the SW of me. Just got off the phone with a friend - Presbyterian Hospital nurse (?) went to the hospital this morning with some symptons and tested positive.

Must have stuck their puke covered finger up their ass, cause it's really hard to catch.

[MikeG22]

Where's Dr. Ike? He said I'm full of crap. Gown, cap, gloved, face shield and nurse still contracted the virus. Hopefully being caught so early she fights it off.

Rumor is there is another case in MA.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

Must have stuck their puke covered finger up their ass, cause it's really hard to catch.

Sheesh Was.

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by MikeG22

Where's Dr. Ike? He said I'm full of crap. Gown, cap, gloved, face shield and nurse still contracted the virus. Hopefully being caught so early she fights it off.

Rumor is there is another case in MA.

Plus one, prayers offered for her full recovery. Ebola/Hemorrhagic Fever is a nasty way to go.

The medicos were predicting something like this would happen. Still no reason for panic, IMO.

[donquixote99]

The authorities were quick to blame the health-care-worker-in-Dallas case on "pilot error" (to make an analogy to another sort of accident). But it may be true.

I'm not sure I fully understand the right-wing's insistence that 'we're all going to die' here. We aren't. It's people in Africa that will.

I predict about 1,000,000 cases in Africa by perhaps the middle of February of next year. Though it might take three or more months longer, if factors that slow the spread of the disease kick in. On the other hand, I'm assuming an average duration of 20 days between when someone is infected, and when they infect everyone else that they are going to. That's pretty much a wild-ass guess, but it fits with the epidemic having gotten to the size it is now, from an index case in late Dec 2013. Anyway, if I'm wrong on that parameter, the epidemic stretches out a bit longer. Still, exponential growth is exponential growth.

Speaking of exponential growth, if it were to rage unchecked over the entire planet, everyone wouold get it by next November. But that won't happen.

[bobabode]

Crazy old 'Grumpy' McCain wonders why Obama hasn't appointed an "Ebola Czar" today on a Sunday show.

That's an easy question to answer. How about the Surgeon General of the United States? Sounds simple, eh? Oh, wait....we don't have one of those because of the NRA's rabid opposition to the current nominee.

McCain needs someone to tell him when to just STFU with his bloviating nonsense.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...12-column.html

[MikeG22]

Originally Posted by bobabode

Crazy old 'Grumpy' McCain wonders why Obama hasn't appointed an "Ebola Czar" today on a Sunday show.

That's an easy question to answer. How about the Surgeon General of the United States? Sounds simple, eh? Oh, wait....we don't have one of those because of the NRA's rabid opposition to the current nominee.

McCain needs someone to tell him when to just STFU with his bloviating nonsense.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hilt...12-column.html

What's funny is there are tweets from dipshit McCain being critical of Obama naming "czars". Total hypocrite.