Obama clears up the name game

[Zeke]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Well, no. Islam is not a race. It would be inherently bigoted though.

1. Better put.
2. I'm drunk.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Boreas

It's not the militants that he doesn't want to piss off. It's the billion plus who haven't been radicalized.

Right. Because after we bomb and ISIS - held facility or kill a terrorist leader with a drone strike, talking all nice on TV to someone who has an Imam filling their head up with all kinds of hate is going to calm them right back down.

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Whell is clinging to the ridiculous notion that der Trumpenfuhrer is actually right about something. A fool's errand.

No. I'm clinging to the notion that our current policies and practices are the fool's errand. And I'd be correct.

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by Zeke

1. Better put.
2. I'm drunk.

While we're correcting the drunk, the word "Islamic" in the term "Islamic terrorists" is not a descriptor, it's a proper adjective. And, as such, does not libel anyone other than the noun it applies to, terrorists.
In fact, it doesn't libel the noun either, there's no false accusation in calling an Islamic terrorist Islamic.

[whell]

Originally Posted by Zeke

As the vast majority of Islamic groups are not murderous, why libel the descriptor?

That would be inherently racist.

Ever hear of the 80 / 20 rule? Those in the 20% can create a whole lot of mischief.

Its also worth pointing out that if one looks at the State Dept's list of Terror groups, the majority of those are...

...well, I don't want to be racist of bigoted by pointing it out.

http://www.state.gov/j/ct/rls/other/des/123085.htm

[MrPots]

Originally Posted by whell

Right. Because after we bomb and ISIS - held facility or kill a terrorist leader with a drone strike, talking all nice on TV to someone who has an Imam filling their head up with all kinds of hate is going to calm them right back down.

Frankly I'm stunned at their restraint so far. If I were Muslim I'd fucking HATE america and americans......with ample reason.

To them we're the biggest terrorist nation on earth.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by whell

No. I'm clinging to the notion that our current policies and practices are the fool's errand. And I'd be correct.

Complaining about Obama's efficacy in cleaning up the mess Dubya created in the Mideast is akin to an arsonist bitching about the fire department. And Trump is bound to be worse than Dubya, if that's even possible.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by MrPots

Frankly I'm stunned at their restraint so far. If I were Muslim I'd fucking HATE america and americans......with ample reason.[

Most do, I'm sure and it's well earned. The thing that keeps them from being radicalized is their feeling of individual self worth, the absence of which is driving tens of thousands of European Muslims into the arms of Daesh. Their feeling of self worth comes from living in a culture that respects and values them. In Europe and Britain, they're treated very differently.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Rajoo

I personally will not call Islam a religion of peace despite the post 9/11 proclamations. The last three terror attacks by US citizens, Chattanooga, San Bernardino and now Orlando were all lone wolf attacks, partly or totally inspired by Islamic fundamentalism. How is declaration of war on Islam going to prevent even more carnage against Americans in Muslim countries?

Because that is how Daesh recruits these fanatics, by telling them that America has declared war against Islam. I think too that you will find that fanatics like this last one in Orlando had some pretty severe mental problems. So expecting rational behaviour is not likely to happen.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Boreas

Calm down. Collect yourself and think about what you're saying here. Either you're saying that you can fund quotes from President Obama which are critical of religion in general and Christianity specifically but no statements which are critical of Islam.... Or you're saying that the world is full of criticism of religion and Christianity but none that are critical of Islam.

Either way your statement is clearly counter-factual and willfully ignorant.

never stopped him in the past John.