I hate the french!!!!

[piece-itpete]

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon

The Germans are the greatest, but I have no problem to confess that the Americans are the greatestest.

LOL!

Pete

[HarmanKardon]

Originally Posted by finnbow

While I'll agree with this sentiment, many people are fearful/suspicious/uncomfortable (pick your word) around people different than they are. FWIW, this is generally more true in Europe than in the US. For example, Muslims have assimilated far better in the US than they have in any European country.

Educational work is the key, even it is laboriously.

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon

Of course of course!!!!!

And never forget the fruitful cooperation of Frank with "Freaky French Fiddler" Jean-Luc Ponty, who is a unique violin Jazz artist.

Do you have "King Kong"? I have it on vinyl. Love it! Also "Aurora" and "Cantaloupe Island".

John

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by finnbow

While I'll agree with this sentiment, many people are fearful/suspicious/uncomfortable (pick your word) around people different than they are. FWIW, this is generally more true in Europe than in the US. For example, Muslims have assimilated far better in the US than they have in any European country.

I love the album, "The Perfect Stranger". Zappa truly was a genius.

Dave

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

The French got unfairly tagged "surrender artists" largely because of WW11.

The fact is that they fought bravely in WW1 and really bore the brunt of the
fighting.

In WWII they were let down by short sighted leaders who invested heavily into fixed defense (Maginot Line) while the Germans had move on to mobile tactics.

The Frenchies didn't have a chance.

But, they did fight valiantly from within. A much neglected story from WW2 is the French Resistance and the heroic contributions they made.

Dave

[HarmanKardon]

Ponty? Of course "King Kong", and "Open Mind" and "Sunday Walk" and others.

I have 80 Zappa LP's and 40 Zappa CD's.

My "Hot Rats" LP (FOC) is on the inside signed by Jean-Luc Ponty and His Holiness Frank Zappa. It is from a renown German collector who got the autographs in a Hotel in Berlin. 99,999 % of Zappa autographs are fakes.

Look at www.arfarf.de. It is in German but enjoy the gorgeous pictures! (The "Hot Rats" there is another one.)

[Boreas]

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon

I have 80 Zappa LP's and 40 Zappa CD's.

Wow!

My "Hot Rats" LP (FOC) is on the inside signed by Jean-Luc Ponty and His Holiness Frank Zappa. It is from a renown German collector who got the autographs in a Hotel in Berlin.[/QUOTE]

Wowie Zowie!

John

[Pio1980]

Originally Posted by HarmanKardon

Dream cars for sure...!

Le Deux Cheval a Vapeur, the 2CV. Actually a very advanced car for it's time and price.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citro%C3%ABn_2CV


Picasso's 2CV (just kidding).

[Pio1980]

Certain folks hereabouts hate the French for their staunch refusal to accept the obvious fact of the superiority of The United States of America in all matters, including overall standard of living, fair employment practices, culture, medical care, education, and certainly the best justice system money can buy.
OTOH, when it comes to convoluted frustrating bureaucracy, the French are up there with the best, even lacking the obvious corruption of the worst examples.

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by Dondilion

The French got unfairly tagged "surrender artists" largely because of WW11.

The fact is that they fought bravely in WW1 and really bore the brunt of the
fighting.

In WWII they were let down by short sighted leaders who invested heavily into fixed defense (Maginot Line) while the Germans had move on to mobile tactics.

The Frenchies didn't have a chance.

The big problem is that the French were on good terms with the Belgians so the Maginot Line was not built on the Belgian/France border. The Nazi army simply attacked Belgium and went around the Line.