Signs of the Times - and a question

[d-ray657]

It's because Uncle Grover won't let his boys vote for it.

Regards,

D-Ray

[merrylander]

Originally Posted by d-ray657

It's because Super Grover won't let his boys vote for it.

Regards,

D-Ray

Fixed it for ya Don.

[piece-itpete]

The reply!

Sir or madam, thank you for your interest in [capitol gains taxes]. We take your questions very seriously and would like you to know that it's [Bushes/Congressional GOPs/the 1%s] fault.



Pete

[merrylander]

Pete you were not listening, Mitch McConnell said that it was his full time job to see that Obama is a one term president, never mind that we are paying him the work the government.

Getting any legislation through Congress just now is a pipe dream.

[noonereal]

Originally Posted by whell

Seems to me that the more folks we have working and paying taxes, the better and stronger the safety net can be. On the other hand, the safety need needs to be something we can afford.

What is it we can afford?

What is it we can't afford?

[BlueStreak]

If you ask a person, who generally has a distaste for anything and everything he perceives as a "government handout" or "stealing my money and giving it to slackers" the answer is we can't afford anything---ever, regardless of any temporal economic situation, good or bad. And he doesn't give two hoots in hell what the ramifications are to his fellow countrymen so long as everything is fine and dandy in his warped little world of Gilded Age "exceptionalism" and John Wayne re-runs.

Some call this "rugged individualism", some call it "selfishness". Whatever you want to call it, I'd say it's only a good thing to a point....we should be ever vigilante as to what our government is doing with our money. However, if we let the self absorbed take over and allow their psychosis to run amuck, they will choke off every last dime and civilization itself will grind to a halt, degenerating into a anarchal nation of Social Darwinist Baboons.

Sleep tight.

Dave

[bobabode]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

If you ask a person, who generally has a distaste for anything and everything he perceives as a "government handout" or "stealing my money and giving it to slackers" the answer is we can't afford anything---ever, regardless of any temporal economic situation, good or bad. And he doesn't give two hoots in hell what the ramifications are to his fellow countrymen so long as everything is fine and dandy in his warped little world of Gilded Age "exceptionalism" and John Wayne re-runs.

Some call this "rugged individualism", some call it "selfishness". Whatever you want to call it, I'd say it's only a good thing to a point....we should be ever vigilante as to what our government is doing with our money. However, if we let the self absorbed take over and allow their psychosis to run amuck, they will choke off every last dime and civilization itself will grind to a halt, degenerating into a anarchal nation of Social Darwinist Baboons.

Sleep tight.

Dave

Exactimundo!

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

If you ask a person, who generally has a distaste for anything and everything he perceives as a "government handout" or "stealing my money and giving it to slackers" the answer is we can't afford anything---ever, regardless of any temporal economic situation, good or bad. And he doesn't give two hoots in hell what the ramifications are to his fellow countrymen so long as everything is fine and dandy in his warped little world of Gilded Age "exceptionalism" and John Wayne re-runs.

Some call this "rugged individualism", some call it "selfishness". Whatever you want to call it, I'd say it's only a good thing to a point....we should be ever vigilante as to what our government is doing with our money. However, if we let the self absorbed take over and allow their psychosis to run amuck, they will choke off every last dime and civilization itself will grind to a halt, degenerating into a anarchal nation of Social Darwinist Baboons.

Sleep tight.

Dave

Well put and true to a fault. Interestingly, the states with the highest preponderance of the types of folks you refer to receive the highest levels of social welfare payments.

[HatchetJack]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

So, the answer is to drag everyone else down? We're all supposed to just accept the lowest common denominator? Competing for ever lower compensation? Wow! What a great path for the American people to follow.

And, you still haven't answered my other two questions either;

What does a higher rate of pay have to do with product quality?

How is the quality of the product NOT the responsibility of the company producing it?

Dave

Yes Dave the world economy is dragging us all down, I don't like it either.
No we should not accept it.
Dave You should not have to ask about wage/ build quality. Take the Malibu
for example. It has to be the same MSRP as the Camry, Accord and others.
The average build wage is 70-100 dollars per hour. I think that includes
paying all the retired union fat asses. Several thousand dollars total I would
think added to the price of the car. Foreign auto makers are building them
for a 3rd of that labor price. So GM is forced to make quality cuts on parts,
engineering, machining, metal, brakes, tires, carpet and who knows what else
to bring the price down to $ 22,000 MSRP
It's a tough responsibility for GM and you see it in their poor market share.
Same deal for many other American companies. The Japs set the price and
American businesses try to compete in the face of haters, unions and the
constant threat of even higher taxes and benefits.
It's a tough road.

[bobabode]

So it's ok for foreign companies to screw us with impunity so you can save a few bucks. I got it now Jack. It sure is strange that the right hates Darwin except when it comes to corporations. Monkey capitalism? Sheesh. The force is strong with the tea sippers today.