Barack H. Obama and your Second Amendment Rights ! - Page 8

Bigerik · #71 03-08-2012, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

My discovered simple truth is this, and no manner of training, expertise, or skill (by anyone involved including me) has been able to change it:

1. If a firearm is not available, accessible, loaded and willing to be used then it may as well be an anvil a thousand miles away.

2. If a firearm is available, accessible, loaded and willing to be used than you have just made the situation more dangerous for everyone, including yourself.

Amongst the general populace, carrying concealed is just bringing your baby blanket with you. It might make you feel empowered/comfortable but only because you've never thought about it or been there.

Great post, Zeke.
So very true.

Bigerik · #72 03-08-2012, 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by barbara

I agree, Zeke.
After the shooting in which Gabby Giffords got shot I heard a lot of gun enthusiasts who insisted that if a citizen had been carrying a gun they could have stopped the perpetrator. Then, I saw an interview with a witness who did actually have a gun on him that day and he was asked why he didn't use it. His response was that he felt if he pulled it out, he might be mistaken for the bad guy and shot..

Yeah, wouldn't that have made things better. A bunch of folks in the middle of a crowd pulling out their guns and letting loose. Good plan!

Bigerik · #73 03-08-2012, 08:18 AM

I also don't get how you are that much better having 10 guns than one.

Charles · #74 03-08-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke

My discovered simple truth is this, and no manner of training, expertise, or skill (by anyone involved including me) has been able to change it:

1. If a firearm is not available, accessible, loaded and willing to be used then it may as well be an anvil a thousand miles away.

2. If a firearm is available, accessible, loaded and willing to be used than you have just made the situation more dangerous for everyone, including yourself.

Amongst the general populace, carrying concealed is just bringing your baby blanket with you. It might make you feel empowered/comfortable but only because you've never thought about it or been there.

As a rule, I'd say you're probably correct.

Chas

Charles · #75 03-08-2012, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigerik

I also don't get how you are that much better having 10 guns than one.

Firearms have specialized uses.

Chas

Bigerik · #76 03-08-2012, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles

Firearms have specialized uses.

Chas

I do know that. I used to shoot competitively. CIL up here presented me with a gold Marksman award years back.

But I still don't see where all but a VERY few would need 10 different guns.

merrylander · #77 03-08-2012, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigerik

I do know that. I used to shoot competitively. CIL up here presented me with a gold Marksman award years back.

But I still don't see where all but a VERY few would need 10 different guns.

Coincidence, my oldest brother worked for CIL before his death.

piece-itpete · #78 03-08-2012, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigerik

Canada and the US ain't THAT different, but your homicide rate is 3 times higher.

Canadians are just plain nicer.

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Originally Posted by Charles

Meebee we got 3X the number of sumbitches who need killin'.

Chas

LMAO!

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Originally Posted by painter

... Guns safety was taught early.
...

Here it is! Whether libs like it or not guns are a part of life in the US. Gun safety should be taught in early grades of elementary school.

There was a great ccw story, a lady was accosted by 2 men just out of prision as she unlocked her apartment door. They demanded money, she gave it to them. Then one said - the story said remove your clothes but bet that's censored? - so she pulled her pistol and shot them.

Many more:http://www.americanrifleman.org/Blog...?id=21&cpage=1

Pete

Zeke · #79 03-08-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by piece-itpete

Whether libs like it or not guns are a part of life in the US.

They don't have to be, which is the point. (And that's not a liberal or conservative thought, it's a rational one.)

And no, I am not "anti-gun."

Guns are a tool and that would be like being "anti-shovel." But -- even for a mere shovel -- there are folks you are supposed to phone before you dig in your own yard to keep from hitting stuff.

Metaphorically, that's all I am asking for regarding gun control: prove to me you're not a dumbass before I hand you a tool specifically designed to kill people.

Zeke · #80 03-08-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by painter

Zeke...I respect and agree with your opinion on carrying a concealed a weapon for the average guy/woman on the street...unless your job is such that you might encounter a situation where your life would be endangered. As for the home base...location...location and crime stats.

I would argue that such a job means you are not the "average guy on the street" and that (just like you) "home base" is sacrosanct.