Ryan's Budget and the debt limit

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by CarlV

But it's true, Sean told them so.


Carl

And, Sean would NEVER tell a fib.....Why he attended seminary!

Dave

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

That is the problem. The GOP sees this as a game of chicken or a blinking contest, notwithstanding the fact that their economic policies were, in large measure, responsible for getting us to this point. I think the nation is wising up to the hypocrisy/incompetence of the GOP in economic matters.

And then the current Administration doubled - down on those policies. That is the problem: the donkeys are portraying this as a blame game, and a "how can we scare them now" game, rather than engaging in any meaningful dialogue.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

And, Sean would NEVER tell a fib.....Why he attended seminary!

Dave

Sean Patrick Hannity (born December 30, 1961) is a conservative political commentator, a radio and television host, a Fred Flintstone lookalike, and a dick.

What makes Hannity’s particular brand of dickishness stand out from the hundreds of other right-wing blowhards reciting GOP talking points over the airwaves is the fact that he pretends to also allow a liberal counterpoint. This “counterpoint” is often delivered by an inept sparring partner, and in the rare case that an actual counter-argument is presented, Hannity immediately puts an end to it via his patented dick methods of: a) yelling over his opponent like a maniac; b) changing the subject to an argument he feels he can win; c) lying; or d) ending the interview and cutting off his opponent before they can make their point.

Nailed it.

http://www.dickipedia.org/dick.php?title=Sean_Hannity

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by whell

And then the current Administration doubled - down on those policies. That is the problem: the donkeys are portraying this as a blame game, and a "how can we scare them now" game, rather than engaging in any meaningful dialogue.

So meaningful dialogue consists of saying that half of the equation is not part of the dialogue.

Regards,

D-Ray

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Sean Patrick Hannity (born December 30, 1961) is a conservative political commentator, a radio and television host, a Fred Flintstone lookalike, and a dick.

What makes Hannity’s particular brand of dickishness stand out from the hundreds of other right-wing blowhards reciting GOP talking points over the airwaves is the fact that he pretends to also allow a liberal counterpoint. This “counterpoint” is often delivered by an inept sparring partner, and in the rare case that an actual counter-argument is presented, Hannity immediately puts an end to it via his patented dick methods of: a) yelling over his opponent like a maniac; b) changing the subject to an argument he feels he can win; c) lying; or d) ending the interview and cutting off his opponent before they can make their point.

Nailed it.

http://www.dickipedia.org/dick.php?title=Sean_Hannity

Yeah, that's pretty much what I've noticed.

However, he supports Christian Family Values, fiscal responsibility and is the Yankee Doodle Dandiest Great Patriot and true blue Red Blooded American, and countless other nebulous, smoke cloud-like slogans and you, Sir, must be a Jesus hating Commie bastard for disagreeing with him on any point. Now leave our country at once, so we can finally be free to exercise our constitutional rights to exploit the workers and rape the environment at will as the God-like and perfect in every way founding fathers intended.............

Dave

[finnbow]

Here's an interesting article about how several professional negotiators view the clownish negotiations in Washington over the debt limit:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...9qG_story.html

Their description of Boehner's tactics: “We’re in the same rowboat, and one person says, ‘If you don’t give me that last loaf of bread, I’m going to shoot a hole in the boat, and we’ll both sink.’ ”

[piece-itpete]

Those guys must never had followed politics or foreign relations.

Pete

[finnbow]

Ronald Reagan, peace be upon him:

“The full consequences of a default – or even the serious prospect of default – by the United States are impossible to predict and awesome to contemplate. Denigration of the full faith and credit of the United States would have substantial effects on the domestic financial markets and the value of the dollar.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...p3G_story.html

[whell]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Ronald Reagan, peace be upon him:

“The full consequences of a default – or even the serious prospect of default – by the United States are impossible to predict and awesome to contemplate. Denigration of the full faith and credit of the United States would have substantial effects on the domestic financial markets and the value of the dollar.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/busine...p3G_story.html

Of course, the state of world economics is quite a bit different today than it was 28 years ago when Reagan made that statement.

EDIT - here' a bit more rational view, IMHO

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...s_opinion_main

[d-ray657]

Originally Posted by whell

Of course, the state of world economics is quite a bit different today than it was 28 years ago when Reagan made that statement.

EDIT - here' a bit more rational view, IMHO

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...s_opinion_main

So it is your opinion that budget cuts should be made under coercion rather than have the cuts considered on their own merits? That way we can save money on such budget drains as public broadcasting and planned parenthood, but leave military spending and oil and agribusiness tax credits intact.

Regards,

D-Ray