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02-17-2017, 01:43 PM
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Absolutely and why I would not fall for the Hillary is better than Trump routine.
I believe that over the long term, what is happening now is good for the country, or at least I hope so.
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I wish I could but seeing all the hatred that is surfacing about us it will take a few generations for it to go away.
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02-17-2017, 03:09 PM
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So you don't think some of the independents who voted for Trump are not having buyer's remorse?
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Out of almost 63 million people that voted for him?
Of course there are a few.
I suspect that number is more than offset by those that didn't vote for him that are now wishing they had.
I would say that 99 44/100% of all this cryin, whinin, pissin, moanin, is coming from butthurt Hillary voters.
He can afford to ignore them.
His base is solid.
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02-17-2017, 04:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Out of almost 63 million people that voted for him?
Of course there are a few.
I suspect that number is more than offset by those that didn't vote for him that are now wishing they had.
I would say that 99 44/100% of all this cryin, whinin, pissin, moanin, is coming from butthurt Hillary voters.
He can afford to ignore them.
His base is solid.
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A whole lot of it is coming from Congressional Republicans who want to pass their agenda and realize that a dysfunctional and ridiculous Trump ain't helping their cause. Behind the scenes, I doubt that there's more than a handful of Congressional Republicans who would prefer Pence to Trump.
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02-17-2017, 05:30 PM
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A whole lot of it is coming from Congressional Republicans who want to pass their agenda and realize that a dysfunctional and ridiculous Trump ain't helping their cause. Behind the scenes, I doubt that there's more than a handful of Congressional Republicans who would prefer Pence to Trump.
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Trump had most of the Republican establishment against him all along during his campaign. This is nothing new.
And he didn't campaign on passing their agenda.
Trump's agenda has significant differences from those of the Republican establishment.
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02-17-2017, 05:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom Joad
Trump had most of the Republican establishment against him all along during his campaign. This is nothing new.
And he didn't campaign on passing their agenda.
Trump's agenda has significant differences from those of the Republican establishment.
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Trump needs the Congress more now than the voters.
Unless he wants to pretend to be president while no one pays attention to him.
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02-17-2017, 05:51 PM
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Trump needs the Congress more now than the voters.
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Yes he does.
It will be a test of wills.
And I'm betting that it will be congress that rolls over and exposes their bellies to the Alpha Dog.
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02-17-2017, 05:55 PM
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Yes he does.
It will be a test of wills.
And I'm betting that it will be congress that rolls over and exposes their bellies to the Alpha Dog. 
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They're doing so for now. If a Russian connection to his campaign is shown, the whole house of cards falls down.
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02-17-2017, 07:51 PM
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They're doing so for now. If a Russian connection to his campaign is shown, the whole house of cards falls down.
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The only connection was that Democrats were too stupid to keep their emails secure.
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02-17-2017, 08:00 PM
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The only connection was that Democrats were too stupid to keep their emails secure.
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We'll see, won't we?
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02-17-2017, 08:08 PM
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We'll see, won't we?
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Probably see Brennan and Clapper in jail first.
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