Polls - Clinton Fading - Page 8

Rajoo · #71 07-28-2016, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by barbara

Here's the thing, Boreas.....

You have every right to not like Clinton and I respect that. In fact, I respect you and have always gleaned wisdom from your posts.

But, even if one dislikes Clinton with every fiber of their being.... How can that justify supporting Trump? Are the tables turned here.... Trump supporters only support him because he isn't Clinton? Or, do you really think.... Deep down in your heart and soul, that Trump is the best candidate with no experience, no knowledge of foreign and domestic affairs, and thinking he can run government like a business?

If your answer is yes.... Then by all means.... Support him.

See it keeps coming back to this from you and other 'dyed in the wool' Hillary supporters and nothing else as to why one should consider voting for Hillary. If you are sold 'hook, line and sinker' on Hillary, that's on you. But try not to criticize the skeptics.

And since we are analyzing Hillary's credentials, how about this?

Does Hillary Clinton want a $15 or $12 minimum wage?

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"I have supported the Fight for $15," Clinton said. "I am proud to have the endorsement of most of the unions that have led the Fight for $15."

To Sanders, that was news.

"I am sure a lot of people are very surprised to learn that you supported raising the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour," Sanders said. "When this campaign began, I said that we’ve got to end the starvation minimum wage of $7.25, raise it to $15. Secretary Clinton said let's raise it to $12." An extended back-and-forth followed.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-minimum-wage/

So how do you answer this question to the young people that are yet to gain your political wisdom?

Boreas · #72 07-28-2016, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbara

Here's the thing, Boreas.....

You have every right to not like Clinton and I respect that. In fact, I respect you and have always gleaned wisdom from your posts.

But, even if one dislikes Clinton with every fiber of their being.... How can that justify supporting Trump? Are the tables turned here.... Trump supporters only support him because he isn't Clinton? Or, do you really think.... Deep down in your heart and soul, that Trump is the best candidate with no experience, no knowledge of foreign and domestic affairs, and thinking he can run government like a business?

If your answer is yes.... Then by all means.... Support him.

I dread the prospects of a Trump-Pence administration and have never said otherwise. And I've said I will vote for her. My problem is that I recognize that the forces arrayed against Clinton are determined to do anything to defeat her and strong enough to do it. Clinton has always been the candidate that the Republicans have wanted to run against because of her vulnerabilities. They have their wish. She will never be president.

Look at the polls. She's in a dead heat. Nate Silver had her as an 80% favorite a month ago. Now it's close to 50/50. You have to ask yourself how is it possible that a boorish criminal lunatic like Trump is able to make this election into a contest.

Pio1980 · #73 07-28-2016, 10:52 AM

This is where she has no traction:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...s-and-god.html

These folks will go Trump because he courts them and has no association with the n####r in the WH who they loathe.

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Boreas · #74 07-28-2016, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980

This is where she has no traction:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...s-and-god.html

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That's right. "Guns, gays and gods". That's sure to galvanize the left by characterizing the opposition to Hillary as being from the average Foxbot. This misidentifies, underestimates and dismisses her opposition and thereby makes Trump's job easier. Stupid.

Pio1980 · #75 07-28-2016, 11:03 AM

Unfortunately, the early comment from the newly minted POTUS came impromptu from the wonkish pragmatic academic bubble in which he functioned prior to his election, and stuck.
For my own part, I didn't think any sentient rational person listened to the Excrement in Fraudcasting guy until I made some disparaging comments to an old friend with whom I'd never mentioned politics.

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barbara · #76 07-28-2016, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Rajoo

See it keeps coming back to this from you and other 'dyed in the wool' Hillary supporters and nothing else as to why one should consider voting for Hillary. If you are sold 'hook, line and sinker' on Hillary, that's on you. But try not to criticize the skeptics.

And since we are analyzing Hillary's credentials, how about this?

Does Hillary Clinton want a $15 or $12 minimum wage?

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-me...-minimum-wage/

So how do you answer this question to the young people that are yet to gain your political wisdom?

Did you not read anything I wrote?

Your comment is evidence that what ever I wrote, you have your own idea of how I feel about the candidates and refuse to accept what I say.

Seems to me this isn't the first time you have dismissed my words for how you think I should feel.

barbara · #77 07-28-2016, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

I dread the prospects of a Trump-Pence administration and have never said otherwise. And I've said I will vote for her. My problem is that I recognize that the forces arrayed against Clinton are determined to do anything to defeat her and strong enough to do it. Clinton has always been the candidate that the Republicans have wanted to run against because of her vulnerabilities. They have her wish. She will never be president.

Look at the polls. She's in a dead heat. Nate Silver had her as an 80% favorite a month ago. Now it's close to 50/50. You have to ask yourself how is it possible that a boorish criminal lunatic like Trump is able to make this election into a contest.

You make good points. But the only poll I'm interested in is the one that happens on November 8.

bobabode · #78 07-28-2016, 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pio1980

This is where she has no traction:
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2016...s-and-god.html

These folks will go Trump because he courts them and has no association with the n####r in the WH who they loathe.

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Good. We won't really need the 'Bubba' vote to win in November but they're welcome to rejoin the party if they give up their racist, bigoted and misogynistic ways.

One of my favorite pics of the WH during the Obama administration.

Pio1980 · #79 07-28-2016, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bobabode

Good. We won't really need the 'Bubba' vote to win in November but they're welcome to rejoin the party if they give up their racist, bigoted and misogynistic ways.

One of my favorite pics of the WH during the Obama administration.

Mine too. This admin has seen pigs fly and demons preparing for the winter Olympics.
Bubbas only like progress when it involves firearms or domestic motor vehicles.

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Rajoo · #80 07-28-2016, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Boreas

That's right. "Guns, gays and gods". That's sure to galvanize the left by characterizing the opposition to Hillary as being from the average Foxbot. This misidentifies, underestimates and dismisses her opposition and thereby makes Trump's job easier. Stupid.

Typical dismissal of reality by the Clinton camp while not really addressing the real cause for the lack of support.

DWS manipulated the primary election using the DNC she was heading at the time, gets caught and what does the Clintonista's do? Blame the Russians, accuse Putin as being an ally of Trump, Trump then publically calls on Putin to expose DNC and Hillary by hacking and thereby totally steals the show during the week of the Democratic convention. Brilliant strategy!

Why not, if it fails we can blame Bernie and his band of followers. Unfortunately his band of followers are not as dumb as the Democratic Party looks.