Israel has invaded Gaza...

[donquixote99]

Do not attribute vulgar name-calling against the Jews to me. I don't do that.

I assume that's somebody's translation of some 'Hamas Manifesto?'

1. Can you show all Hamas members have read it? If not, the assumption that it always guides their motivations and behavior fails.

2. Can you show that all Hamas members believe it and accept it as authoritative in each and every respect? If not, the assumption that it always guides their motivations and behavior fails.

3. Can you show that no Hamas member could ever be induced under any circumstances to alter or set aside their views on any of these points? If not, the assumption that it always guides their motivations and behavior fails.

[BlueStreak]

Originally Posted by Wasillaguy

There's probably not much concern re increased hatred. Gazans elected Hamas knowing they were committed to destroying all Israelis.Wanting to exterminate people is a pretty high level of hatred already. What's to fear in possibly making them madder?

Of course they hate the Israelis. Wouldn't you?

I think American Muslims need a Caliphate of their own. Let's give them Alaska........

Now, don't be a hater, Wasillaguy.

Dave

[Wasillaguy]

Originally Posted by BlueStreak

Of course they hate the Israelis. Wouldn't you?

I think American Muslims need a Caliphate of their own. Let's give them Alaska........

Now, don't be a hater, Wasillaguy.

Dave

If I were a Palestenian, I'm sure I probably would hate Israelis.
Not sure if I'd go so far as to support a government that wanted to kill all of them though. I guess that would depend on my religious beliefs- whether I believed that deliberately killing innocents was wrong or righteous.

I try not to do hate, it's bad for your health. I do find it hard to be sympathetic with folks who insist on provoking fights they are sure to lose, especially when their accompanying rhetoric leaves no margin for civilized discourse that might lead to a peaceful resolution.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by donquixote99

Do not attribute vulgar name-calling against the Jews to me. I don't do that.

I assume that's somebody's translation of some 'Hamas Manifesto?'

1. Can you show all Hamas members have read it? If not, the assumption that it always guides their motivations and behavior fails.

2. Can you show that all Hamas members believe it and accept it as authoritative in each and every respect? If not, the assumption that it always guides their motivations and behavior fails.

3. Can you show that no Hamas member could ever be induced under any circumstances to alter or set aside their views on any of these points? If not, the assumption that it always guides their motivations and behavior fails.

Re: Your assumption...When did I accuse you of any vulgar anti-Jew namecalling? When I commit such an accusation, trust me, you'll know. There will be no need for hypersensitive assumptions.

Re: 1-3 - Could you pass that test? Regarding our Constitutional manifesto? Can you show that all Americans have read it? Can you show that all Americans believe it? Can you show that no American could ever been induced under any circumstances to alter or set aside their...blah...blah...blah??? WTF are you talking about?

No...I can't and I'm not interested in trying. Although I believe all official members of Hamas and all residents of Gaza who fully support Hamas want all Jews living on "their dirt" either gone or dead. Go ahead, convince me otherwise.

[piece-itpete]

It seems Hamas might be looking good to the Palestinians in this. If so Israel should give them exactly nothing.

Pete

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by piece-itpete

It seems Hamas might be looking good to the Palestinians in this. If so Israel should give them exactly nothing.

Pete

Israel should be giving Hamas exactly nothing no matter who Hamas might be looking good to.

[Dondilion]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Israel should be giving Hamas exactly nothing no matter who Hamas might be looking good to.

Israel is going to give Hamas something.

Because of the graphic destruction of parts Gaza, Israel is facing growing opposition to the importation of it products. This is especially so in Europe.

[finnbow]

Originally Posted by Ike Bana

Israel should be giving Hamas exactly nothing no matter who Hamas might be looking good to.

Israel somehow thinks that in a war that it should have the luxury of hand-picking its enemy.

[Ike Bana]

Originally Posted by finnbow

Israel somehow thinks that in a war that it should have the luxury of hand-picking its enemy.

Well they have plenty of sworn enemies to choose from...on all sides. Although it appears that all of them, save the Palestinians, have been too smart to actually attack Israel anymore. They just use the poor oppressed Palestinians as handy dupes to do the dirty work they can't get away with.

[piece-itpete]

Agreed, and it's disgusting. But for some reason their 'friends' are immune from most criticism.

Pete