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04-15-2023, 03:18 PM
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I'm in the camp of Putin will never let Crimea go again. He is will to go all out to keep it. Go down in (nuke cloud) flames if need be.
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04-15-2023, 04:26 PM
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The Russians can hold their own in any war Ukraine plus can muster.
The critical juncture for Russia was the economic one. It did not collapse under the sanction onslaught primarily because of support from China, India and surprisingly its bureaucratic competence.
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04-15-2023, 05:51 PM
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That's why it will be a graduated / gradual assault.
The Ukraine will come out with more planes, and shit-ton more missles.
They won't really 'route' the Russians at the Crimea, triggering a nuclear response. They'll just bomb the hell out of it, maybe take the bridge down.
The Russian public won't put up with the effort to continue the fight (according to my assessment of what President Z must be thinking).
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04-15-2023, 06:03 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
The Russians can hold their own in any war Ukraine plus can muster.
The critical juncture for Russia was the economic one. It did not collapse under the sanction onslaught primarily because of support from China, India and surprisingly its beurocratic competence.
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It's ironic that Putin took the corruption of the Marxist ideal to it's pinnicle, for personal gain, and yet rejected the control of the Zionist founded world banking structure.
It's does seem like Russia would eventually implode.
On the other hand, the USA political system seems to be imploding as well.
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04-15-2023, 06:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigElCat
That's why it will be a graduated / gradual assault.
The Ukraine will come out with more planes, and shit-ton more missles.
They won't really 'route' the Russians at the Crimea, triggering a nuclear response. They'll just bomb the hell out of it, maybe take the bridge down.
The Russian public won't put up with the effort to continue the fight (according to my assessment of what President Z must be thinking).
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That Russian public has already left Russia for London, New York, Miami, Paris.
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04-15-2023, 06:50 PM
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Jigsawed
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigElCat
It's ironic that Putin took the corruption of the Marxist ideal to it's pinnicle, for personal gain, and yet rejected the control of the Zionist founded world banking structure.
It's does seem like Russia would eventually implode.
On the other hand, the USA political system seems to be imploding as well.
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That structure's aim is Balkanization. Africa is replete with such efforts. That is why Mikhail Khodorkovsky was removed, he was viewed as a possible "Jonas
Savimbi".
The USA political system is not imploding. The system has always been messy, but has always found a way to deal with irritants. The white working class having discovered that it was not special caused some problems. However, that has now been contained.
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04-16-2023, 06:19 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dondilion
That structure's aim is Balkanization. Africa is replete with such efforts. That is why Mikhail Khodorkovsky was removed, he was viewed as a possible "Jonas
Savimbi".
The USA political system is not imploding. The system has always been messy, but has always found a way to deal with irritants. The white working class having discovered that it was not special caused some problems. However, that has now been contained.
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This world story is straight out of the inflammatory and "fraudulently" written book, 'The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion', as pushed by Henry Ford and other Nazi sympathizers. Right down to the targeting of the demographic majority, the white working class, in this case. The book / books could have been penned by the devil himself (in order to frame and blame the Zionists, as they always claim).
Who knows ?
I take it a "Jonas Savimbi" is a 'Judas' to a particular cause ?
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04-16-2023, 10:07 AM
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Jigsawed
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Quote:
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I take it a "Jonas Savimbi" is a 'Judas' to a particular cause ?
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He was a leader of one of the Angolan faction who was a darling of the South Africans and the Reagonites. He was dressed up by the infamous PAUL MANAFORT and presented to Washington as the person who could deliver Angolan resources especially oil.
It is the regular tactic a local leader is used to gain control of resources. Often the country is destabilized.
In Russia a deal was made that oligarchs who got control of certain assets during the chaotic period of the Soviet breakup could keep them provided the oligarchs stayed out of politics.
Mikhail kordakovsky did not adhere to this deal and sorted to combine with western heavy weights like ExxonMobil. He became the darling of western power centers. He was viewed as a possible "Mobutu"...a way to get control of Russian massive resources.
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04-16-2023, 08:33 PM
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Here's the latest on the Top Secret information leak, and potential damage done to the US. From CNN and the Defence Department (?)
My synopsis of the video; no real damage was done to the USA or Ukrainian war effort. The Ukrainians are coming out with more equipment, and ordnance, but NATO is telling them they can not win the war. They need to accpet an indefinite cease fire, with a boundary line like the Korea DMZ.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gxHPbzzSI2Y
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04-16-2023, 08:59 PM
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I still say we shoud send in a privateer force to take the Crimea, just like the 'little green men' took it over for Russia.
Sell them a fleet of PT style boats equipped with ship-buster missles, some helicopters with same. The Ukraine surprisingly established air superiority over Russia, it's time somebody annonymously gave their Navy a kick in the pants.
Hell, the privateers could fly the old pirate black flag with cross bones.
Commentators and Western Intelligence could just marvel at their sudden appearance, speculate on where they may have come from.
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